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WTF? + + Even on touchpads mouse acceleration feels like its doing more + harm than good and I dont like it :( + + edit: Instead of giving me gold please donate the money to a + charity or GNU developers. + + + ** TurnDownForTendies + Despite the downvotes this is a legitimate complaint. I've never + understood why this isn't extremely easy to disable. + + ** KarKraKr + There even was a time when libinput didn't support flat + acceleration at all while some distros (namely arch) had + already moved to it. I downgraded that package immediately. + If I remember correctly the devs were quite dismissive of + this and didn't think it was a high priority, because who + doesn't want mouse acceleration? And isn't setting it to some + really low value just like turning it off? + No, it's not and yes I notice it immediately. I refuse to buy + many mice because they can't track without some leftover + acceleration ffs. With Linux being more and more viable as a + gaming platform this just can't be ignored. I know people who + tried switching to Linux because they heard CSGO, the only + game they ever play, runs. They were just as stupefied as + you'd expect them to be that there was no option for + disabling mouse acceleration completely and that they had to + manually edit config files. "Yeah, Linux is really easy these + days, uhh, except for that I guess" + + + ** 5had0w5talk3r + If you use Gnome or especially KDE, it is extremely easy to + disable. Just go to the settings menu and disable it. + + ** aaronfranke + In XFCE there's a menu for changing the acceleration + amount, but it doesn't do anything if I set it to zero or + ten. + + ** 5had0w5talk3r + [1]https://bugzilla.xfce.org/ + + + + + [1] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/ + + ** aaronfranke + [1]https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8593 + [2]https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12140 + No attention from developers for over half a decade. + + + + + [1] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8593 + [2] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12140 + + ** 5had0w5talk3r + That's pretty shocking. If you're not resource + limited, I'd consider moving to KDE since they + actually seem to care about what the users want + and need. + + ** aaronfranke + Not shocking to me. Ubuntu and Wine both have + bugs over a decade old. I just checked and KDE + has open bugs from 2002. Tends to happen with + open-source projects. [1]The oldest 500 bugs + are from 2002 to 2005 . + XFCE's oldest bug is from 2006. Gnome's oldest + bug is from 2004. The Linux kernel's oldest + bug is from 2005. Wine's oldest bug is from + 2000. + + + + + [1] + https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__- + open__&no_redirect=1&order=changeddate%2Cprior- + ity%2Cbug_severity&query_format=specific + + ** 5had0w5talk3r + It's shocking considering the kind of bug + it is. + + + ** Greydmiyu + Most might not be valid any longer. I was + putzing around with Dokuwiki at work, it + didn't install cleanly from the package. So + I checked the bugtracker for the package. + Oldest bug for Dokuwiki is filed against + 8.10. That version isn't even supported any + more (16.04LTS is the oldest, I think). On + top of that the specific bug is fixed. I + know it's fixed. The current package isn't + missing the symlink that bug says is + missing. + + + ** energybeing + Tends to happen with open-source projects. + Tends to happen more with closed source + projects as there is no way to report or + track bugs open to the public. Windows 7 + was still running 16 bit dos... Think about + how old the bugs must be in that pile of + trash. + One of them led to a full privilege + escalation. + + + ** the_Madman + That's an issue with bug triaging, not bug + fixing. + + ** aaronfranke + The user doesn't care though. + + ** the_Madman + That's correct. They don't care about + bug reports against software that + doesn't have the bug anymore. + + + + + + + + + ** hatestetris + Same issue on MATE. + + + + ** TurnDownForTendies + I made a bootable usb to see the mouse options in KDE. + You're right there's an option to set the acceleration to + flat. The last time I used it I was confused by the + multipliers where you could type in values for + acceleration and "pointer threshold." Good to see its now + just a click to get it over with. + + ** 5had0w5talk3r + Yeah, the KDE team have done a great job recently and + have developed a modern, feature-rich, and great + performing desktop with some of the best apps in the + Linux space. It's really come a long way and I have + zero regrets or complaints after having switched to it + over a year ago. + + ** TurnDownForTendies + Yeah looks a lot different than it used to last time + I tried it a year ago. Looks really nice so far and + animations are a lot smoother than what I'm used to + on gnome. I had to edit a file to stop screen + tearing on my nvidia card and disallow applications + to block compositing because running a game would + cause window dragging and some desktop effects to + get screwed up, but I'll switch to it if things seem + stable. + + ** 5had0w5talk3r + I had to edit a file to stop screen tearing on my + nvidia card + On any recent drivers you can just open the + nvidia-settings tool as root and enable + "ForceFullCompositePipeline" under "Advanced" in + the "X Server Display Configuration". Then just + save it to your xorg.conf file to keep it after a + reboot. + + disallow applications to block compositing + because running a game would cause window + dragging and some desktop effects to get screwed + up, + This seems to be an edge-case with only certain + applications. IIRC, the only one I've encountered + any issues with was [1]The Adventures of Fei + Duanmu . In any case, you can manually toggle + compositing using a global shortcut + (Shift+Alt+F12 by default). + + Looks really nice so far and animations are a lot + smoother than what I'm used to on gnome. + Yeah the animations and transitions are great. + You can customize them too, from "Smoother and + longer" to "Snappier and shorter" (or just turn + them off if that's your thing). + + + + + [1] + https://store.steampowered.com/app/593200/The_Adv- + entures_of_Fei_Duanmu/ + + ** DutchHawk_ + I had to edit a file to stop screen tearing on + my nvidia card + On any recent drivers you can just open the + nvidia-settings tool as root and enable + "ForceFullCompositePipeline" under "Advanced" + in the "X Server Display Configuration". Then + just save it to your xorg.conf file to keep it + after a reboot. + Seeing as how we are on a gaming subreddit: + keep in mind that this does have a huge + performance impact. + + ** 5had0w5talk3r + I feel like this is a myth that keeps + getting perpetuated. I've done testing and + have seen no impact in either frame-time, + response, or frame-rate across OpenGL, + Vulkan or Wine games. Maybe it causes some + issue in some edge-case game where the code + is poorly optimized, but I've yet to run + into it. + + ** DutchHawk_ + Dunno about edge case, but it isn't + consistent: that's true. + I have little impact in say + Insurgency/DOF, but both Tomb Raiders + had massive stuttering. Same with the + vsync effect: sometimes it seems to + clamp it to 60fps while other games are + fine. + So I guess the advice would more be + "keep in mind it does stuff; if you have + issues try enabling/disabling it". + + + + ** GaianNeuron + There's an option in KDE called "allow + applications to block compositing" which + lets games override that and recover said + performance. + It's enabled by default. + + ** DutchHawk_ + From what I gather, that has nothing to + do with Nvidia's settings (inc. any form + of CompositePipeline ) only KDE's own + compositing. KWin doesn't know anything + what Nvidia is doing. Via former KDE dev + [1]/u/mgraesslin : see [2]this + The [3]solution in that thread by + [4]/u/UrbenLegend may work with the + "block compositing" (since it it a KWin + thingy after all). Although for me the + triple buffer helps, but not completely + eliminates tearing. + + + + + [1] https://www.reddit.com/u/mgraesslin + [2] + https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/88- + aejd/is_anyone_here_using_kde_on_proprie- + tary_nvidia/dwow79l + [3] + https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/88- + aejd/is_anyone_here_using_kde_on_proprie- + tary_nvidia/dwje571 + [4] https://www.reddit.com/u/UrbenLegend + + + + + + + ** koera + My only complaint is that I would love to use + Kubuntu, but KDE Neon keeps getting so much awesome + stuff I can't make myself give it up. + + ** YAOMTC + I don't see how this is a complaint. + + ** koera + Luxury problem, I would love to have a super + stabil 18.04 with the extra polish and stabil + KDE desktop, but all the awesome new and shiny + is too much to resist. + + + + + + + ** fluffy465 + KDE has different mouse settings menus depending on the + driver, so that option isn't always there. It wasn't for + me by default. + + ** Walrad_Usingen + Yes! [1]Here is a forum post showing the different + mouse settings in the preferences. Make sure you + install xf86-input-evdev and use it instead of the + default xf86-input-libinput , e.g. with cp + /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf + /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf + + + + + [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=240218 + + ** the_real_farfetchd + Maybe symlink the file instead of copying so it + doesn't get out of sync when the original gets + updated. + + ** Walrad_Usingen + Yeah, probably not a bad idea. I don't + necessarily trust the package keeping it in the + same place either though, so maybe both. 🤔 + + + + + ** 5had0w5talk3r + When was this? It's there on the default configuration + for: Fedora 28, Arch (and Arch-based), Kubuntu 18.04, + KDE Neon. + + + + ** Jupon + wait, with KDE i can completely disable this? im + installing this weekend! + + + + ** Swiftpaw22 + It is, and it's why I helped to get the Linux Mint developers + to turn it off by default. There is an option in mouse + settings for "custom acceleration" where you can turn it back + on, though, if you want it. But seriously, most everyone + seems to prefer it off, hence why they changed that. It's + stupid to have accel be the default, and even if you make it + the default, at least provide a way to easily disable it. + All distros should do the same. No mouse acceleration is a + sane default. + + ** Jupon + When was this? i was using mint earlier this year and it + was impossible for someone like me to remove. + + + ** chunes + As someone who moved from Windows to Mint a few weeks ago, + thank you! This thread had me worried but I was surprised + to see it turned off by default. + + ** TheFlyingDharma + Disabling mouse acceleration is a "massively niche + feature"? Did I really just read that on a gaming + subreddit? + + ** c0ccuh + He would feel right at home on gnome. + + ** vexorian2 + Not a he + + + + ** vexorian2 + I am yet to meet anyone IRL that remotely cares + about this. And most of the people I know are geeks + to some degree. + Reality is that most of the people don't care, and + if we added this feature to the UI they would feel + confused about it and mess it up and then wonder why + their mouse is acting glitchy on Linux. + If instead, we leave it like it is, the people who + care can run the terminal commands or install the + right packages or whatever. + + + + + + ** catman1900 + The people here are to 1337 for ease of use stuff + + + ** lemler3 + Install gnome tweak tool go to keyboard and mouse and change + mouse profile to flat + + ** Sempre01 + Yeah thats the solution on stock Ubuntu but you shouldnt have + to install software to change mouse settings... + + ** redstoolthrowawayy + Actually the function is already part of gnome, the tweak + tool makes it easier to access and saves the setting. + + ** Sempre01 + Huh. I had to install it when I tried stock Ubuntu. + + ** furquan_ahmad + Debian (on which Ubuntu is based upon) installs it + as part of the gnome metapackage, I don't know why + Ubuntu removed Tweaks from the metapackage. + + ** koera + My guess would be to "simplify" the experience. + Less options means easier to use. + + + + ** ImpersonalComputer + You had to install gnome tweak tool to change the + setting using a GUI but you could have changed it + manually by editing dconf. + + ** TMiguelT + Any idea why tweak tool is not installed by + default, or even integrated into the Settings + dialogue? It's so helpful I don't understand why + everyone wouldn't want it + + ** the_Madman + Because that gives users control, which is + against the Gnome philosophy. + + ** Vash63 + Gnome doesn't decide on the default + packages for a distribution. As mentioned + above in this same comment thread, Ubuntu's + upstream (Debian) does include Tweaks by + default with the 'gnome' metapackage. + + ** the_Madman + Gnome does decide to ship 4 different + UIs to do one job, and all as separate + software. + + ** Vash63 + True, but that isn't the same thing + you initially said which is that they + don't like giving control. They just + aren't organizing it very well. + + + + + + + ** lordofbud + I think the point they are making is that it's + not a default GUI option, people who are just + switching over from windows, and doing so as + gamers are likely not familiar with non-GUI + methods of adjusting settings. + [1]This is what they see on Ubuntu, and to be + honest, it leaves the impression to a new user + that disabling mouse acceleration is not an + option. + Edit: two words. + + + + + [1] https://imgur.com/xD5rIqI + + ** ImpersonalComputer + I agree, it should be a part of Ubuntu’s basic + features I was just trying to clarify that it + can be done without installing the gnome tweak + tools package. + + + + + + + ** lemler3 + I mean you can't really blame one distro when they all use + libinput, if anything synapse if the one to blame + + ** Sempre01 + They could've put a slider in their mouse settings + couldnt they? + + ** BulletDust + Microsoft could have used just the 'Control Panel' + as opposed to the 'Control Panel' and the 'Settings + Panel' couldn't they? + A classic example of a non intuitive GUI if I ever + saw one. It's easier opening a configuration file + and copy/pasting simple text. + + + + + ** FlukyS + Well they are shipping the Gnome settings manager with a + few tweaks. This is more of a Gnome problem than an Ubuntu + problem. + + + + ** DanBennett + OK, I had no idea that's what that did! Thank you for helping + OP and thus others. More like you, please! :-) + + + ** arminiusreturns + [1]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration + + + + + [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration + + ** ed_ed_ed_ed + [Something like this?] ( [1]https://imgur.com/xGmEY1A ) + + + + + [1] https://imgur.com/xGmEY1A + + ** KarKraKr + Does that really turn it off though? I've never seen a GUI + that actually sets a [1]flat acceleration profile . Granted, + I don't use many GUIs, but stock distros were always lacking + such an option. + + + + + [1] + https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#Disab- + ling_mouse_acceleration + + ** Ozymandias117 + KDE at least appears to. [1]https://i.imgur.com/3pOG6uL.png + + + + + [1] https://i.imgur.com/3pOG6uL.png + + ** TaylorRoyal23 + That doesn't seem to work perfectly. I've tested it a + bunch of times and it seems to still have a bit of + acceleration + + ** bakgwailo + Would be nice to file a bug report with your + findings. + + + ** Sasamus + The profile toggle doesn't seem to work, it does not + change the profile. + It seems to work for some though. + + + + + + ** Swiftpaw22 + Then you haven't used Linux Mint, as I helped to get the + developers to turn it off by default. There is an option in + mouse settings for "custom acceleration" where you can turn it + back on, though, if you want it. But seriously, most everyone + seems to prefer it off, hence why they changed that. + All distros should do the same. No mouse acceleration is a sane + default. + + ** awe300 + I fucking love Linux mint + + + ** jensreuterberg + Ok this may be the DUMBEST question - but I use the GUI option + in plasma to set flat acceleration rate - but then I do + + $ xinput list-props {1..50} 2>/dev/null | fgrep 'libinput Accel + Profile Enabled (' + And it claims acceleration is still on... (ie reads 1, 0 instead + of 0, 1) + Is it me just not getting it, or freaking out for nothing? If + not: Why? + EDIT: should be noted that I have a hard time checking + "manually" (ie testing going quick over the same space as you've + recently dragged it slowly to see if it goes "farther" when + moving fast) but my aim in CSGO "feels" shaky. Could be just me + stressing out and getting shaky aim due to that suspicion. + + ** AI221 + best way to test is to set 2 heavy objects between your mouse + and move between them fast or slow. If your mouse doesn't + return to roughly the same spot you're good.(unless you've + got some $500 mouse it's not gonna be pixel-perfect) + + ** jensreuterberg + Thats the one I usually do (although not THAT heavy), will + do some more of it though just to calm my nerves - which + may just as well be what messes it up. CS is such a + "confidence game", and a small streak of losses really + makes you wonder and question etc etc... + + + + ** Sasamus + You are correct. The profile toggle does not work, at least + for some, the profile does not change. + + + ** K900_ + KDE Plasma lets you disable mouse acceleration out of the box. + + ** iommu + Does it have an option for sensitivity yet? On 5.13 I could + only find accel but not sensitivity. + + ** AimlesslyWalking + I think the acceleration option might just be a poorly + worded sensitivity option, so long as you set it to flat + profile underneath. I could be wrong though, just going + off a brief mouse-feel test and it feels unaccelerated. + + ** RASQ37 + Just tested it. No, it's definitely acceleration. + + ** Sasamus + That slider does work as a sensitivity/speed slider + with a flat profile. + The problem is that changing the profile there + doesn't seem to work for some people, hence why + people have different experiences. + If you set the profile to flat by other means that + slider can be used for sensitivity. + + + + + + ** raist356 + I guess you are using the stable version. That option is gone + in the settings of new versions. + + ** K900_ + It's there for me on Plasma 5.14 beta. + + ** raist356 + What distro are you on? + + ** K900_ + Arch. + + + + + ** jensreuterberg + Just chiming in that I still have that option in 5.13.5 + (Flat Acceleration Rate checkbox underneath the slider) + + + + ** mightysilentsaint + is it weird that i have never faced the said problems for the + last 6 years of my life as a full time linux user? + + ** MikeFrett + I've never had these issues either. + + ** aerique + It's mostly what you're used to. In the past I did most of + my gaming on Windows, so Linux felt off and OS X was + awful. + Switched to Linux full-time a couple of months for gaming + (everything else I had been doing on Unix for ages + anyway), set my mouse settings to something that felt + nice[1] and no issues after one or two days. + [1] xset b off mouse 2/1 4 + + + + ** plumkefan + Just to be a bit pedantic, this is not a Linux issue as it has + nothing to do with the kernel. It is really an issue with + whatever Desktop Environment(s) you are using. + Some DEs have this built into to their settings UI, some do not. + If there is a specific DE you love, but does not offer this, + propose it upstream and someone may add it in. + There are several options for persistently disabling + acceleration. The easiest that come to mind would be either + throwing an computer command in somewhere like .xprofile or + specifying your mouse parameters in an XOrg config file. If + using Gnome, there is always gnome-tweaks, as has been + mentioned. + From what I’ve read in this thread, it seems like half the + commenters are expecting that there should be some magic + software or standard UI element that is mandatory in every + distribution of Linux. It’s a bit silly to think that way as + everyone uses Linux in their own way and many of us don’t want + bloated garbage that we will never use (a UI element for a + setting that only needs to be touched once). + + ** kon14 + Just to be a bit pedantic, this is not a Linux issue as it + has nothing to do with the kernel. + Just a reminder, but you do understand you've written this in + a sub called linux _gaming, right? Nobody cares at this + point, from a casual user's perspective, linux is just a + catch-all term for linux distros. + + The easiest that come to mind would be either throwing an + computer command in somewhere like .xprofile or specifying + your mouse parameters in an XOrg config file. + While I personally love config files, manually configuring + some settings can be intimidating for newcomers and it gets + even worse when you also have to setup multiple non-binary + vars that only accept specific values (ie dpi, sensitivity, + acceleration etc). + + It seems like half the commenters are expecting that there + should be some magic software or standard UI element that is + mandatory in every distribution of Linux ... many of us don’t + want bloated garbage that we will never use. + You're spot on regarding unnecessary cruft bloating a default + installation. However if a noob-friendly desktop-use distro + (or rather DE) already provides a basic mouse configuration + utility in its system settings I think it would really make + sense if they could merely add a couple of additional + elements to expose and configure stuff like this. + The thing is, not all peripherals can be supported through + the same utilities (at least not for stuff like dpi), but + thankfully bosic stuff like acceleration are merely handled + by libinput (and others). + On the other hand, libinput doesn't even expose proper + configuration files, so if you're on Wayland and your + compositor doesn't provide a tool to modify acceleration and + other parameters you're pretty much stuck with the default + settings! + + + ** redstoolthrowawayy + xset m 0 0 + + ** KarKraKr + That does not disable mouse acceleration 100%. + + ** learn2dev + Fr? What does? I'm worried bc I play tf2 with raw input on + and xset m 0 0. + How can I make sure acceleration is off? + + + + ** Sempre01 + Thats temporary. + + ** _____frost___ + You can make commands execute at startup in several ways.. + + ** Sempre01 + Thats way too complicated for 99% of gamers coming from + Windows. + + ** BulletDust + Geez, I've done more complicated things just getting + games running the way they should under Windows. + I personally think you've set the bar a little low + considering the technical ability of most gamers. I + enjoy gaming and I had mouse acceleration disabled + permanently in seconds under Ubuntu MATE. + This procedure is far from difficult (I run 16.04): + [1]https://errorfixer.co/disable-mouse-acceleration- + ubuntu-16-04/ + + + + + [1] + https://errorfixer.co/disable-mouse-acceleration-ubu- + ntu-16-04/ + + ** Greydmiyu + I've hated mouse acceleration ever since it was + introduced. I've never had to "move the mouse + over half the table." Called tweaking sensitivity + for the available space. Right now the mouse I am + using for my laptop has less area than a standard + sized hot pad (7"x7"). I only use that as a unit + of measurement because my dinner is on a hot pad + next to the mouse and takes up more room than + what my mouse has to move. + + + ** TurbulentCurrent + I don't use acceleration and my mouse has to move + less than 4 cm for the pointer to move from one + corner to the diagonally opposite corner on a + 1080p screen. + + + ** lordofbud + 99% of user? + I have never heard someone praise mouse + acceleration, I have on the other hand heard + people bitch about it. + + + ** energybeing + You're literally the only person I've ever seen + defend mouse acceleration. I don't think that + number is as high as you think it is. That shit + is cancer. Just up the sensitivity a little bit + if you can't be bothered to move your hand a few + inches FFS. + + + + ** lulxD69420 + Windows where you need a ton of 3rd party software, + registry editing to make the OS not spy and do weird + stuff randomly? Just wow + + ** Sempre01 + Its not a good idea to make Linux easier to use + for everyone? + + ** biAlotOFthings + lol no. Gatekeeping gets these people off + bruh. Some of them absolutely do not want + things like this to be more accessible. God + forbid my 97 year old gramps can get anything + done on the ubuntu distro I installed on his + desktop. + Imagine this kind of neckbeardy attitude in + any other field of interest. + "My coq au vin recipe tastes too savory what + can I do??" + -- "Hurr durr maybe next time try yourself on + [1]this instead" + Fucking insufferable + + + + + [1] + https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thum- + b/5/57/Lunchables%2C_turkey_and_american_crack- + er_stackers.jpg/250px-Lunchables%2C_turkey_and- + _american_cracker_stackers.jpg + + ** civilization_failed + 1337 af + + ** MasterPythonicSlave + i installed arch in less than 10 tries i + kno what im talking abou + + + + ** Greydmiyu + [1]https://media.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx- + 1eM/giphy.gif + + + + + [1] + https://media.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx1eM- + /giphy.gif + + + ** Sempre01 + ok... + + + + ** Sempre01 + Thats really mean. + + + ** toidiboy + I have a better suggestion + sudo rm elitism-in-linux + + + + + + + + ** m-p-3 + I guess that explains why I always find the mouse sluggish on + Linux, TIL. + + ** walterbanana + Just like Windows, to be fair. Nowadays you can change the + acceleration profile in Gnome Tweak tool, if you are using Gnome + anyway. + + ** Appofia + Flat in KDE does not disable acceleration as some people are + claiming, at least not for me, there's still acceleration + present it's just a different curve, or it's bugged. + Not having proper GUI settings for mouse controls is my number 1 + issue with running Linux these days. It's baffling why something + that so many people want to change/adjust has to be done with + editing files or creating scripts. + + ** Sasamus + It's bugged, at least for some, the profile settings does not + change the profile. + + + ** paanordpolen + Long live xinput commands + + ** cloudrac3r + Play around with the xinput command-line tool. Specifically, + Device Accel Profile (aceleration type) and Device Accel + Constant Deceleration (speed). My preferred settings are -1 and + 1.25 respectively, and I have this script to set them for me: + a="$(xinput | grep 'Logitech USB Receiver' | awk '{print $6}' | + sed 's/id=//')" + for i in $a; do + b="$(xinput list-props $i | grep 'Device Accel Constant + Deceleration')" + b=${b##*(} + b=${b%%)*} + xinput set-prop $i $b 1.25 + b="$(xinput list-props $i | grep 'Device Accel Profile')" + b=${b##*(} + b=${b%%)*} + xinput set-prop $i $b -1 + done + For a synaptics touchpad, use the synclient command line tool. + + ** gluka_ + It's true and in KDE at least, setting the slider to zero + doesn't actually give you raw input like xorg configs will (it + feels smoothed). From what I can tell, there's also no real + option for changing your desktop sensitivity once you're rid of + mouse acceleration if you don't have working DPI settings. + Changing the transform matrix through xinput seems like the best + solution, but causes the camera to spin uncontrollably in a ton + of games for some reason. + + I suppose you could make a script to disable/enable it as + needed, but most games have menus and overlays that you need to + interact with regularly so that would be a lot of hotkey presses + over time. + + ** 5had0w5talk3r + in KDE at least, setting the slider to zero doesn't actually + give you raw input + Did you set your profile to 'flat'? + + + ** Sasamus + With the adaptive profile the slider adjusts the amount of + acceleration. + With the flat profile the slider adjusts the + sensitivity/speed. + The problem is that the profile setting doesn't seem to work, + at least for some. + But the slider works as it should if you set the profile in + other ways. + + + ** ismaelbonato + xset m 00 + + ** undu + Touchpad acceleration shouldn't be a problem anymore: + [1]https://who-t.blogspot.com/2018/08/libinputs-new-trackpoint-a- + cceleration.html + + + + + [1] + https://who-t.blogspot.com/2018/08/libinputs-new-trackpoint-acce- + leration.html + + ** citewiki + Shouldn't it be in the game settings anyway? + + ** Zach_Attakk + I don't know if it's because I'm used to the "enhanced pointer + precision" on Windows, but every time I go back to my Zorin + machine, I keep overshooting buttons, even when moving slowly. + I'd also like to be able to set the sensitivity of my mouse vs + my trackpad independently, because one is super slow and the + other super fast and I don't want to switch it every time I + decide not to plug in the mouse. + + ** TurbulentCurrent + On X you can easily disable it by typing xset m 1 0 + in the terminal + But on Wayland (libinput), I have not found a way to disable it, + that's why I don't use any distro that comes with Wayland. + + ** Saizaku_ + Just to stop missinformatiom from spreading, xset no longer + works the way it used to due to the changes in x. You should + use config files, read more about that here: + [1]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#Di- + sabling_mouse_acceleration + + + + + [1] + https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#Disab- + ling_mouse_acceleration + + + ** inverimus + Honestly, most people probably want it on, so having to use some + google searches to turn it off is not a very big deal. + + ** lordofbud + Not trying to bash you, but if you're using a physical mouse + instead of a touch pad, why would you want mouse acceleration + on? + It out right annoys me, the first thing I set out to address + on a fresh install is disabling it. + + ** inverimus + I don't have it on, but I think most people do not bother + ever turning it off and are used to it being on all the + time. + + + + ** MightyWheatley + still, there should be an easy to find option for those who + want to turn it off + + + ** Prime624 + Huh. I actually love the mouse sensitivity and acceleration on + Linux (and Mac). I can barely use a windows mouse anymore, it's + so touchy or sluggish, no good balance. + + ** volca02 + It's okay if you do - but there are those with high-dpi mice + used to RAW input without any acceleration - and I'm one of + them. It's mind boggling why the common desktop environments + don't allow for total bypass of the mouse input processing. + + + ** LordMacharius + I prefer accuracy, mouse acceleration on a mouse is the most + frustrating thing to work with. + + + ** the_Madman + KDE's mouse settings panel allows you to set the acceleration to + "dynamic"or "flat". I switched it off the first chance I got. + + ** 84521 + Is that why the mouse is so fucky in Ubuntu? And no way to + toggle it off? + + ** ReadAParadox + You can disable it in Ubuntu but it's kinda complicated, first + install gnome-tweak-tool then go to mouse settings (in + gnome-tweak-tool) then change acceleration profile from whatever + it is to flat. + + ** supamesican + YUp, my biggest complaint about it. Manjaro doesnt seem too bad + about it but still its not ok + + ** EdgiPing + Upvote for the edit. + + ** GeeWhizWithout + I have used Linux in some fashion for decades. Work, pleasure, + etc. Mouse issues are my most hated thing. I use a trackball and + it's not always good. + + ** UltimaN3rd + I installed Ubuntu 18.04 fresh just a few weeks ago and don't + have any mouse acceleration by default. It was always a problem + before but it seems like they changed it? + + ** BenkiTheBuilder + I'm just using plain X11 with Fluxbox (on Ubuntu Xenial) and + haven't changed anything regarding mouse. And I'm happy with how + the cursor moves. Guess it's an anti-feature of Desktop + Environments. + + ** mao_dze_dun + I have absolutely no idea why you got ANY downvotes. This has + been a legitimate problem that has been present on, at least, + all Ubuntu based distros I've used. They want to increase market + share but can't fix the effing mouse? What the hell? + + ** stormicex + It's the reason I still use windows. Even if I disable the mouse + acceleration from tweak tool the feel of the mouse is horrible + in csgo. I tried 5 years ago and tried again some months ago. + Still shit. We'll see in another 5 years lol + + ** LordMacharius + You can't be bothered to look up the software you need so you + use Windows instead, wtf? + + ** stormicex + maybe you need to read again my post. Even with + acceleration disabled mouse feels weird on linux compared + to what feel on windows. Aim is super important while + playing csgo and if my mouse don't feel precise i can't + play on linux. + + + + ** tutami + This and screen tearing is linuxs doom. We need to fix those + issues + + ** n30p1r4t3 + No screen tearing to speak of for me on mesa/amdgpu... I’ve + only ever had screen tearing using intel or nvidia. + + ** tutami + %90 ppl are using Nvidia/Intel. There are workatounds but + at the cost of performance etc + + + +