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1129 <span id="title-102640946" class="story-title"> <a href="//games.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/2146237/valve-explains-how-it-decides-whos-a-straight-up-troll-publishing-video-games-on-steam">Valve Explains How It Decides Who's a 'Straight Up Troll' Publishing Video Games On Steam</a> <span class=" no extlnk"><a class="story-sourcelnk" href="https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9kmej7/valve-it-really-does-seem-bad-games-are-made-by-bad-people" title="External link - https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9kmej7/valve-it-really-does-seem-bad-games-are-made-by-bad-people" target="_blank"> (vice.com) </a></span></span>
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1182 An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard: <i>Wednesday, Valve, the company that operates the huge online video game store Steam, shared more details about <a href="https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9kmej7/valve-it-really-does-seem-bad-games-are-made-by-bad-people">how it plans to control and moderate the ever-increasing number of games published on its platform</a>. In the post <a href="https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1708442022337025126">published Wednesday</a>, Valve shared more details about how it determines what it considers "outright trolling." "It is vague and we'll tell you why," Valve wrote. "You're a denizen of the internet so you know that trolls come in all forms. On Steam, some are simply trying to rile people up with something we call 'a game shaped object' (ie: a crudely made piece of software that technically and just barely passes our bar as a functioning video game but isn't what 99.9% of folks would say is "good.")
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1671 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~west">west</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~west">( 39918 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1673 on Thursday September 06, 2018 @08:51PM (<span class="ind"></span><a href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57266938">#57266938</a>)
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1679 <div id="comment_body_57266938"><p>98% of the total garbage disappears (as well as a few percent of the good). Of course "not terribly good games" will still appear, but it gets rid of the absolute garbage.</p><p>Or if people are appalled at paying to appear on Steam, allow spending $10K for a Steam "check-mark of marketing", and allow users to filter to show only check-marked games.</p></div>
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1755 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span>Anonymous Coward</span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1760 <div id="comment_body_57267230"><p>"Choices"???</p><p>Thirty-five (35) games were released on Steam <i>today alone</i>.</p><p>Go fuck yourself.</p></div>
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1818 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~rsilvergun">rsilvergun</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~rsilvergun">( 571051 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1823 <div id="comment_body_57267296">because there's no accounting for taste, and if you took away garbage there'd be no Goat Simulator. As the saying goes, one man's trash is another's treasure. <br> <br>
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1825 Plus, a lot of good devs get their start making trash.</div>
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1850 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~AC-x">AC-x</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~AC-x">( 735297 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1855 <div id="comment_body_57267350"><p><div class="quote"><p>because there's no accounting for taste, and if you took away garbage there'd be no Goat Simulator. As the saying goes, one man's trash is another's treasure.</p></div><p>I'm sorry, but anyone with a functioning brain would see that infinitely more effort and polish has been put in to games like Goat Simulator than any of those garbage "asset flips" that litter the Steam store.</p><p>Yes the difference between a good and bad game is subjective, but broken zero effort trash is much easier to agree on...</p></div>
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1885 <div id="comment_body_57267546"><p>Will never happen. There are way too many games like PUBG that would've never become Steam hits if they had such a policy. It only needs to be enough to make the trolls miss it/lose out with their scams; $100 would likely be enough.</p></div>
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1932 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Escogido">Escogido</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Escogido">( 884359 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1937 <div id="comment_body_57267566"><p>Either would shut a lot of starting indie games developers out of the system, thus preventing said developers and the gaming industry in general from making future hits. Basically, all new games are either essentially reskins/clones of existing games, or trying new mechanics and/or interactions, and sometimes (rarely) stories and characters. Given the typical indie level production values are garbage, in general, only the ones that try to innovate actually do have some value for the industry. However, first<span class="substr"> </span></p></div>
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1955 <div class="title">
1956 <h4><a id="comment_link_57266960" name="comment_link_57266960" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57266960" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57266960)" >Best New Feature</a>
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1960 </div>
1961 <div class="details">
1962 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Kunedog">Kunedog</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Kunedog">( 1033226 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1964 </div>
1965 </div>
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1967 <div id="comment_body_57266960"><p><div class="quote"><p>A second set of changes was focused on improving how you can ignore things you're not interested in. In the past you've been able to ignore individual games or product types (like VR, or Early Access) you didn't want to see again. But now we've added ways for you to also easily ignore individual developers, publishers, and curators.</p></div><p>Imagine how much easier browsing Netflix would be if you could filter out whole franchises and showrunners. Of course, that might make it obvious how little on Netflix actually interests you.</p></div>
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1986 <h4><a id="comment_link_57266992" name="comment_link_57266992" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57266992" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57266992)" >Re:</a>
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1990 </div>
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1992 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span>Anonymous Coward</span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1997 <div id="comment_body_57266992"><p>Then they could charge a fee to shows that don't want to be filtered by you</p></div>
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2016 <h4><a id="comment_link_57267140" name="comment_link_57267140" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57267140" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267140)" >Re:</a>
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2022 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Archfeld">Archfeld</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Archfeld">( 6757 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2027 <div id="comment_body_57267140"><p>Sounds like Amazon, and the Kindle Library. No matter what you search, every 7th listing is a 'Sponsored' listing, and even if you specify a particular author or absolute title, you always get 10 or 12 additional 'bonus' items listed.</p></div>
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2041 </li></ul></li></ul></li><li id="tree_57267010" class="comment oneline"><span class="ind"></span>
2042 <div id="comment_status_57267010" class="commentstatus"></div>
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2044 <div id="comment_top_57267010" class="commentTop newcomment">
2045 <div class="title">
2046 <h4><a id="comment_link_57267010" name="comment_link_57267010" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57267010" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267010)" >Early Access Garbage and abandonment</a>
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2049 <span id="comment_score_57267010" class="score"> (<a href="#" onclick="getModalPrefs('modcommentlog', 'Moderation Comment Log', 57267010); return false"><span class=opt>Score:</span>2</a>)</span></h4>
2050 </div>
2051 <div class="details">
2052 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~shendar">shendar</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~shendar">( 674986 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2056 <div class="commentBody">
2057 <div id="comment_body_57267010">How about if a developer starts a EA Project and walks away (takes forever with no progress) they are banned from further EA?
2058 How about if they are banned from the store entirely?</div>
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2086 <div id="comment_top_57267356" class="commentTop newcomment">
2087 <div class="title">
2088 <h4><a id="comment_link_57267356" name="comment_link_57267356" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57267356" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267356)" >Re:</a>
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2092 </div>
2093 <div class="details">
2094 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~AC-x">AC-x</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~AC-x">( 735297 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2099 <div id="comment_body_57267356"><p>I'm sure the type of developer who does that would simply abandon their old label and create a new developer account to carry on.</p></div>
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2116 <div id="comment_top_57267558" class="commentTop newcomment">
2117 <div class="title">
2118 <h4><a id="comment_link_57267558" name="comment_link_57267558" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57267558" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267558)" >Re:</a>
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2122 </div>
2123 <div class="details">
2124 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~mentil">mentil</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~mentil">( 1748130 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2127 </div>
2128 <div class="commentBody">
2129 <div id="comment_body_57267558"><p>"I'm sick of development, so here's version '1.0'."<br>Also define 'forever' in a timescale that doesn't apply to Notch, Rockstar or Valve.</p></div>
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2146 <div id="comment_top_57267646" class="commentTop newcomment">
2147 <div class="title">
2148 <h4><a id="comment_link_57267646" name="comment_link_57267646" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57267646" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267646)" >Re:</a>
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2152 </div>
2153 <div class="details">
2154 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Calydor">Calydor</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Calydor">( 739835 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2157 </div>
2158 <div class="commentBody">
2159 <div id="comment_body_57267646"><p>Wait. I see what you did there.</p><p>You mentioned three developers.</p><p>CONFIRMED: Half-Life 3 is being produced by Notch and Rockstar!</p></div>
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2174 <div id="comment_status_57267014" class="commentstatus"></div>
2175 <div id="comment_57267014" class="cw">
2176 <div id="comment_top_57267014" class="commentTop newcomment">
2177 <div class="title">
2178 <h4><a id="comment_link_57267014" name="comment_link_57267014" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57267014" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267014)" >Great Yet Another Meaning For Troll</a>
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2181 <span id="comment_score_57267014" class="score"> (<a href="#" onclick="getModalPrefs('modcommentlog', 'Moderation Comment Log', 57267014); return false"><span class=opt>Score:</span>1</a>)</span></h4>
2182 </div>
2183 <div class="details">
2184 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Crashmarik">Crashmarik</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Crashmarik">( 635988 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2187 </div>
2188 <div class="commentBody">
2189 <div id="comment_body_57267014"><p>Already May well be the most overloaded operator in the English language. As it seems to mean anything anyone anywhere takes objection to, or otherwise makes them feel bad.</p></div>
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2207 <div class="title">
2208 <h4><a id="comment_link_57267044" name="comment_link_57267044" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57267044" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267044)" >Re: Great Yet Another Meaning For Troll</a>
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2214 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Nidi62">Nidi62</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Nidi62">( 1525137 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2219 <div id="comment_body_57267044">The troll in me wants to say that "nazi" probably has "troll" beat<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</div>
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2260 <h4><a id="comment_link_57267200" name="comment_link_57267200" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57267200" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267200)" >Re:</a>
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2264 </div>
2265 <div class="details">
2266 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~tepples">tepples</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~tepples">( 727027 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2271 <div id="comment_body_57267200"><p>Furthermore, unlike console and mobile platforms, Steam has very little switching cost. An end user can always just up and switch to Itch or Origin or GOG or Humble or wherever else.</p></div>
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2301 <h4><a id="comment_link_57267476" name="comment_link_57267476" href="//games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12580630&amp;cid=57267476" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267476)" >Steam's progression</a>
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2307 <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Luckyo">Luckyo</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Luckyo">( 1726890 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2315 <div id="comment_body_57267476"><p>So Steam started as "shove it down their throats" Counter Strike 1.6 launcher. Evolved into highly curated game store over about a decade.</p><p>Then decided to suddenly drop all curation and allow anything and everything on the platform. Got flooded with garbage. Added weird "meta gaming" shit like trading cards. Got games that literally existed just to allow people to get cards. Allowed some trading and other meta gaming of the system. Even got pressured by some SJW types to drop politically controversial games like Hatred and even had their recent porn games brouhaha.</p><p>And now, they're doing this. I guess there's just too much pressure from all directions, and they really just decided that no, we're not bending to various pressure groups, and instead just making sure that asset flips and such are not on the store. If true, good on them.</p></div>
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2790
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2794 _gaq.push(['b._trackPageLoadTime']);
2795
2796
2797 if (!window.is_euro_union) {
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2801 var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
2802 })();
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2818 ga('set', 'dimension6', _ml.us.dm);
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2822
2823 <!-- Sticky Ads -->
2824 <script type="text/javascript">
2825 var topBannerViewed = false;
2826 if($('#div-gpt-ad-728x90_a').length > 0 && window.outerWidth >= 1070 && !isAdBlockActive){
2827 $(window).scroll(function(){
2828 var y = $(document).scrollTop();
2829 var z = y + window.outerHeight;
2830 var navOffset = 0;
2831 var offset = [
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2838 $('.adwrap-unviewed').each(function(){
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2840 var toggleCls = 'adwrap';
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2843 if(topBannerViewed){
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2845 navOffset += $('.adwrap').outerHeight();
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2857 $(this).removeClass('adwrap');
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2872 if($('.adwrap-viewed-banner').length > 0){
2873 topBannerViewed = true;
2874 $('.adwrap-viewed-banner').removeClass('adwrap-unviewed').removeClass('adwrap-sticky').addClass('adwrap');
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2877 $('.adwrap-viewed-railad').removeClass('adwrap-unviewed').removeClass('adwrap-railad-sticky');
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2879 }
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2885 <script type="text/javascript">
2886 var _paq = _paq || [];
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2889 _paq.push(['enableLinkTracking']);
2890 function initPiwikAndNels() {
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2899 if(window.location.pathname == '/'){
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2905 $.ajax({
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2907 success: function(html){
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2910 });
2911 }
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2913 if(document.getElementById('announcementText')){
2914 $('#announcementText').hide();
2915 var hlUrl = '/ajax.pl?op=hl_nel';
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2921 success: function(html){
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2934 bizx.cmp.ifConsent('publisher', ['storage', 'measurement'], initPiwikAndNels);
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2936
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2939 _linkedin_data_partner_id = "113712";
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2952
2953 <!-- Datonics -->
2954 <script async type="text/javascript" src="//ads.pro-market.net/ads/scripts/site-143573.js"></script>
2955 <script id="after-content" type="text/javascript">
2956 (function( $, fn, console ){
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2961 <script type='text/javascript'>
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2991
2992
2993
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2995 <div id='div-gpt-ad-1x1'><script type='text/javascript'>
2996 googletag.cmd.push(function(){
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2999
3000 <script type="text/javascript">
3001 if (!window.is_euro_union) {
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3006
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3009
3010
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