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| c715ea02 | 12 | <h2>'Eve Online' Studio Acquired By Korean MMO Maker (engadget.com)</h2> |
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13 | <div class='details'>(Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (msmash) |
| 14 | from the in-some-business-news dept.)</div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 17 | <li>Reference: <a href=''>0102639448</a></li> |
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18 | <li>News link: <a href='https://games.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1921222/eve-online-studio-acquired-by-korean-mmo-maker'>https://games.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1921222/eve-online-studio-acquired-by-korean-mmo-maker</a></li> |
| 19 | <li>Source link: <a href='https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/06/eve-online-pearl-abyss-ccp-games/'>https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/06/eve-online-pearl-abyss-ccp-games/</a></li> | |
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| e818d449 | 23 | [1]MAXOMENOS writes:<br/><br/>><br/><br/>>> EVE Online<br/><br/>> developer CCP Games [2]has been acquired by Pearl Abyss , the South Korean studio behind the action-oriented MMORPG Black Desert Online. According to [3]VentureBeat , the deal was worth $425 million and will close in early October. It's a surprise announcement for CCP, which has long operated as an independent developer. Eve Online isn't the biggest MMORPG on the market, but it has maintained a steady and loyal userbase through continuous updates and a well-timed switch to a hybrid premium and free-to-play model. The 15-year-old game is unique, too, with its large-scale battles and notoriously complex economic and political systems.<br/><br/><br/><br/>[1] https://slashdot.org/~MAXOMENOS<br/><br/>[2] https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2018/black-desert-online-creators-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp-games-makers-of-eve<br/><br/>[3] https://venturebeat.com/2018/09/06/black-desert-online-creator-pearl-abyss-acquires-eve-online-maker-ccp-games-for-425-million/ |
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| c715ea02 | 27 | <h3>RIP Eve (Score:3)</h3> |
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28 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by spiritplumber ( 1944222 )</div> |
| 29 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the userbase's culture and wreck a good thing.</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 31 | <h3>Re: (Score:3)</h3> |
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32 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by sinij ( 911942 )</div> |
| 33 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>If someone could make EVE more grindy, it would be a Korean MMO maker. I don't see them misunderstanding that aspect, as they invented Korean Grinder.</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 36 | <h3>Re: (Score:3)</h3> |
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37 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by duke_cheetah2003 ( 862933 )</div> |
| 38 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>> Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the userbase's culture and wreck a good thing.</p><p>CCP already did that years ago.</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 45 | <h3>Re: (Score:1)</h3> |
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46 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by Anonymous Coward</div> |
| 47 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>Son, if Koreans will do anything it's inject sexy alien women and bikini-space-armor into it.</p><p>East Asia never suffered the retardation of puritanism, which is unique to the Western world owing to Abrahamic doctrine, to develop Gymnophobia and Genophobia, so they don't care about the Church-Feminist anti-sexualization offense alliance. The only exception are the "Communist" governments there.</p></div> | |
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56 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by jeff4747 ( 256583 )</div> |
| 57 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>It's almost like you don't know there's already Korean and Chinese alliances in Eve.......and they're not doing all that well. I'm sure FRT will stop feeding Keepstars soon.</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 61 | <h3></h3> |
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66 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by St.Creed ( 853824 )</div> |
| 67 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>It was bad in the beta and never actually recovered from some pretty bad development choices. Have they discovered parallel processing yet? And version management? Okay, I guess the last one was a bit mean. They must have discovered Git by now.</p><p>But seriously, the game is an unstructured mess. Played it for a while, flew a Machariel and did incursions, level 4 missions etc. but after a while it got boring. May pick it up again though.</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 72 | <h3>Not Good News (Score:4, Interesting)</h3> |
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73 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by Kunedog ( 1033226 )</div> |
| 74 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>Shamus Young has a series on Black Desert, explaining how shockingly aggressive, expensive and game-ruining he found the microtransactions system to be, even if you're familiar with the worst of the American systems. There's manadatory PvP and deliberately cramped inventory space but the "cash shop" can always make things better (i.e. playable).</p><p></p><p>I'd be worried if I were an EVE Online fan.</p><p></p><p>[1]https://www.shamusyoung.com/tw... [shamusyoung.com]</p><p>> I see all the default clothes are bland and I need to pay real money for a cool outfit. Aesthetics are important to me. (Which is why I spend so much time on sculpting my character.) So I really don’t want to spend the rest of my time looking at these blando outfits. Sigh. Fine. What’s a pretend suit of armor cost these days? Three bucks? Five bucks?</p><p>></p><p>> FORTY SIX AMERICAN DOLLARS? ARE YOU TRYING TO START A FIGHT?</p><p>> The cheap outfits can be had for $22. They also offer ladies underwear sets for just $7, if you want to run around in your underpants. (I don’t, thanks.)</p><p>></p><p>> (They also offer similar options for male characters. I was tempted to get the outfit that would let my kung-fu guy go shirtless, because he’s a kung-fu dude. But all of the choices looked like modern-day boxers. You can’t just wear baggy pants with no shirt.)</p><p>></p><p>> Would you like to dye that super-expensive outfit you just bought? Or any other outfit? That will set you back another $10. And that’s somehow a rental. Your ten bucks gets you a month of being allowed to have dyed clothes. After the month is up, your clothes revert to their original colors and you gotta fork over another $10.</p><p>> Do you enjoy wheeling and dealing at the auction house in other games, but the egregious 35% tax on all your sales is making it impossible for you to have fun or turn a profit? Pay fifteen real-world dollars and the tax will go down to the normal 5%. (For one month.)</p><p>></p><p>> Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off. It’s not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity of the seller to ask this much[2] for what should be trivial virtual goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still likely to get offended if someone tries to sell you a stick of ordinary gum for five bucks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[1] https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=42507</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 76 | <h3>Re: (Score:3, Interesting)</h3> |
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77 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by Anonymous Coward</div> |
| 78 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>> Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off. It’s not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity of the seller to ask this much for what should be trivial virtual goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still likely to get offended if someone tries to sell you a stick of ordinary gum for five bucks.</p><p>Sometimes, I thought Stallman was being a pendant for gripes about terminology like "intellectual property".</p><p>Now I realize he was exactly right.</p><p>This guy uses the words "virtual goods", like it's something he'll actually own. Dollars to donuts, the EULA and TOS says these 'virtual goods' are nothing more than bits on their server, you don't own a single bit of it, and they do whatever they like, and fuck you we're keeping your money if you don't like it.</p><p>Seriously, this should be a legal term. If your company</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 81 | <h3></h3> |
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86 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by Calydor ( 739835 )</div> |
| 87 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>Remember when they wanted to make players PAY for mods for Skyrim?</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 91 | <h3>Re: (Score:2)</h3> |
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92 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 )</div> |
| 93 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>$46 for a suit of armor?</p><p>If I ever had any interest in playing Eve*, this pricing would instantly cure me of that notion.</p><p>*Which I don't, but still...</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 97 | <h3>Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win (Score:2)</h3> |
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98 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by Crashmarik ( 635988 )</div> |
| 99 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>If that isn't a match made in hell I don't know what is.</p></div> | |
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106 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by MAXOMENOS ( 9802 )</div> |
| 107 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>....if they can only get out of beta......</p></div> | |
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110 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by blackomegax ( 807080 )</div> |
| 111 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>The current beta is 3 moons, 2 stations, and a shitty framework of a "game" that runs at 10fps on a GTX1060 at low settings and looks 5x worse than games like doom or E:D.</p></div> | |
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119 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by St.Creed ( 853824 )</div> |
| 120 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>They're not even in Alpha. They call it that, but what it actually is, is "perpetual development hell". It doesn't have a version number but if it had, it would be 666.</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 127 | <h3>Why didn't microsoft acquire it? (Score:3)</h3> |
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128 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 )</div> |
| 129 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>Since its unofficial tagline is, ya know, "spreadsheet online"</p></div> | |
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132 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 )</div> |
| 133 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>It's also known as "Spreadsheet Simulator".</p></div> | |
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137 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by meglon ( 1001833 )</div> |
| 138 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>But...it's a really pretty spreadsheet.</p></div> | |
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147 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 )</div> |
| 148 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>Makes me wonder too. I wonder if White Wolf would be sold off (likely) or spun off (unlikely, but would be nicer). My fear is that it gets tossed to some big company, and the IP completely shelved, never to see the light of day again, similar to how EA has done with a lot of Origin IP.</p></div> | |
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152 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by jeff4747 ( 256583 )</div> |
| 153 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>CCP was making a World of Darkness MMO, but canceled the project a few years ago. I think they sold the IP.</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 157 | <h3>Only half a billion? (Score:2)</h3> |
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158 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by beheaderaswp ( 549877 ) *</div> |
| 159 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>My god... that number is kinda high...</p><p>That aside... this new owner will just accentuate the problem areas of Eve that kept it from truly meeting it's potential.</p><p>As it is, it's already a griefing sandbox with little wiggle room for anything except PVP and/or massive corporate/alliance industry or fleet ops. When it could be far more balanced and appeal to a larger player base.</p><p>Pushing it further into "gang warfare" style griefing will eventually make the player base smaller.</p><p>I stopped playing in 2016. So I play</p></div> | |
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162 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by Luckyo ( 1726890 )</div> |
| 163 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>Your description of events is the exact opposite of your conclusion. It sounds like EVE has in fact achieved greatness, because the process you describe functions exactly like real world functions on macro level.</p><p>The fact that they apparently managed to recreated the world on macro level in a game through long standing player interactions in less than two decades is mind blowingly amazing.</p></div> | |
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166 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by St.Creed ( 853824 )</div> |
| 167 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>And indeed, a subject of economic studies. Pretty brilliant work in that respect. Whether it's successful as an enjoyable game is something else entirely.</p></div> | |
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170 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by Luckyo ( 1726890 )</div> |
| 171 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>Not economic. Political. This is literally the core tenets of concept of sovereignty. Economy is just a part of the picture here.</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 177 | <h3>Eve Online New addon will contain loot boxes (Score:2)</h3> |
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178 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by Cito ( 1725214 )</div> |
| 179 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>No more expansion packs but eve online will offer season passes at 4 different tier prices; standard, deluxe edition, legacy and ultimate edition.</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 182 | <h3>Also known as (Score:2)</h3> |
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183 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 )</div> |
| 184 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>"Eve Online", also affectionately known as "Spreadsheet Simulator".</p></div> | |
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| c715ea02 | 187 | <h3>made me laugh (Score:2)</h3> |
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188 | <div class='by' style='font-style: italic;'>by meglon ( 1001833 )</div> |
| 189 | <div class='comment_content'><p></p><p>> Eve Online isn't the biggest MMORPG on the market</p><p>In other news: water is wet, and the sky is blue.</p></div> | |
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