| 1 | SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS ARE NOW MORE VALUABLE TO COMPANIES THAN \r |
| 2 | MONEY, SAYS SURVEY (CNBC.COM) \r |
| 3 | \r |
| 4 | Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (BeauHD)\r |
| 5 | from the new-breed-of-corporate-leaders dept.\r |
| 6 | \r |
| 7 | o Reference: 0102640098\r |
| 8 | o News link: https://developers.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/2024232/software-developers-are-now-more-valuable-to-companies-than-money-says-survey\r |
| 9 | o Source link: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/06/companies-worry-more-about-access-to-software-developers-than-capital.html\r |
| 10 | \r |
| 11 | \r |
| 12 | An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNBC:\r |
| 13 | \r |
| 14 | > As our global economy increasingly comes to run on\r |
| 15 | technology-enabled rails and every company becomes a tech\r |
| 16 | company, demand for high-quality software engineers is at an\r |
| 17 | all-time high. A recent study from [1]Stripe and Harris Poll\r |
| 18 | found that 61 percent of C-suite executives believe access to\r |
| 19 | developer talent is a threat to the success of their business.\r |
| 20 | Perhaps more surprisingly -- as we mark a decade after the\r |
| 21 | financial crisis -- [2]this threat was even ranked above\r |
| 22 | capital constraints . And yet, despite being many\r |
| 23 | corporations' most precious resource, developer talents are\r |
| 24 | all too often squandered. Collectively, companies today lose\r |
| 25 | upward of $300 billion a year paying down "technical debt," as\r |
| 26 | developers pour time into maintaining legacy systems or\r |
| 27 | dealing with the ramifications of bad software. This is\r |
| 28 | especially worrisome, given the outsized impact developers\r |
| 29 | have on companies' chances of success. Software developers\r |
| 30 | don't have a monopoly on good ideas, but their skill set makes\r |
| 31 | them a uniquely deep source of innovation, productivity and\r |
| 32 | new economic connections. When deployed correctly, developers\r |
| 33 | can be economic multipliers -- coefficients that dramatically\r |
| 34 | ratchet up the output of the teams and companies of which\r |
| 35 | they're a part.\r |
| 36 | \r |
| 37 | \r |
| 38 | \r |
| 39 | [1] https://stripe.com/reports/developer-coefficient-2018\r |
| 40 | \r |
| 41 | [2] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/06/companies-worry-more-about-\r |
| 42 | access-to-software-developers-than-capital.html\r |
| 43 | \r |
| 44 | \r |
| 45 | ** So why not treat them well? (Score:5, Insightful)\r |
| 46 | (by gweihir ( 88907 ))\r |
| 47 | \r |
| 48 | \r |
| 49 | Naa, that would be un-capitalist. Developers must be cheap\r |
| 50 | wage-slaves that do not have a real career-path and are unable\r |
| 51 | to find a job once they hit 50. That will surely not have any\r |
| 52 | impact on whether smart people go into software writing or not,\r |
| 53 | right?\r |
| 54 | \r |
| 55 | ** Re: So why not treat them well? (Score:1)\r |
| 56 | (by Dannis12345 ( 5512754 ))\r |
| 57 | \r |
| 58 | \r |
| 59 | This is really true. As the fact that the IT leads the world.\r |
| 60 | \r |
| 61 | \r |
| 62 | ** \r |
| 63 | \r |
| 64 | ** Re: (Score:3)\r |
| 65 | (by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ))\r |
| 66 | \r |
| 67 | \r |
| 68 | > But even so, I hear these horror stories about how\r |
| 69 | > software developers are treated and I just have not seen\r |
| 70 | > it.\r |
| 71 | Me neither. I have worked for companies that had catered\r |
| 72 | meals, free soda, laundry service, sky diving bonding\r |
| 73 | trips, etc. I have had plenty of opportunities to travel.\r |
| 74 | I have worked some late nights, and done a few death\r |
| 75 | marches, but those only lasted a few weeks, out of a\r |
| 76 | career lasting decades.\r |
| 77 | Software developers are likely the most spoiled employees\r |
| 78 | in the history of the world.\r |
| 79 | People will alway whine.\r |
| 80 | \r |
| 81 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 82 | (by gweihir ( 88907 ))\r |
| 83 | \r |
| 84 | \r |
| 85 | > People will alway whine.\r |
| 86 | And there you are wrong. I have a pretty good career\r |
| 87 | myself. But I see how many coders are treated and I am\r |
| 88 | not surprised at all that there are by far not enough\r |
| 89 | good ones.\r |
| 90 | \r |
| 91 | ** Re: (Score:1)\r |
| 92 | (by NicknameUnavailable ( 4134147 ))\r |
| 93 | \r |
| 94 | \r |
| 95 | As much as I'm for better treatment and perks for\r |
| 96 | coders, the issue of "not enough good ones" isn't\r |
| 97 | because of that. There's only so many smart people,\r |
| 98 | dumb people and mediocre people don't make good\r |
| 99 | coders. Some of the above-average ones might make\r |
| 100 | the cut as maintenance coders or some incredibly\r |
| 101 | soul-crushing AGILE environment where they don't\r |
| 102 | actually have to think, but for the most part any\r |
| 103 | programming position of note requires a 150+ IQ to\r |
| 104 | do even moderately well.\r |
| 105 | \r |
| 106 | ** \r |
| 107 | \r |
| 108 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 109 | (by HornWumpus ( 783565 ))\r |
| 110 | \r |
| 111 | \r |
| 112 | How many 3+ standard deviation people are we\r |
| 113 | supposed to believe you know?\r |
| 114 | Same crit as you gave the GP. I doubt you know\r |
| 115 | even one.\r |
| 116 | \r |
| 117 | \r |
| 118 | \r |
| 119 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 120 | (by gweihir ( 88907 ))\r |
| 121 | \r |
| 122 | \r |
| 123 | The issue is very much that a lot of the few\r |
| 124 | people that could be good at it, see the working\r |
| 125 | conditions and career options and go somewhere\r |
| 126 | else. Also, 150+IQ people basically do not exist.\r |
| 127 | I gather this is some wired non-standard US\r |
| 128 | scale...\r |
| 129 | \r |
| 130 | ** Re: (Score:3)\r |
| 131 | (by _Sharp'r_ ( 649297 ))\r |
| 132 | \r |
| 133 | \r |
| 134 | Having a measured IQ >150, I can tell you with\r |
| 135 | my excellent two-minute Googling skills there\r |
| 136 | are approximately 300K in the U.S. if you're\r |
| 137 | using the Stanford-Binet scale. For the\r |
| 138 | Wechsler scale, it's more like 140K, which is\r |
| 139 | still a lot of people. Heck, the Prometheus\r |
| 140 | Society's cut-off for membership is 160+. I\r |
| 141 | guess to you, they basically don't exist...\r |
| 142 | \r |
| 143 | \r |
| 144 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 145 | (by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ))\r |
| 146 | \r |
| 147 | \r |
| 148 | > ... see the working conditions and career\r |
| 149 | > options and go somewhere else.\r |
| 150 | Where do they go?\r |
| 151 | Doctors, lawyers and investment bankers work\r |
| 152 | longer hours than programmers. Nearly everyone\r |
| 153 | else makes less money.\r |
| 154 | Maybe they become underwater welders?\r |
| 155 | \r |
| 156 | \r |
| 157 | \r |
| 158 | \r |
| 159 | \r |
| 160 | \r |
| 161 | \r |
| 162 | ** Re:So why not treat them well? (Score:5, Interesting)\r |
| 163 | (by spagthorpe ( 111133 ))\r |
| 164 | \r |
| 165 | \r |
| 166 | It won't really have any impact, because young people don't\r |
| 167 | think they'll ever get old. Or it will be different for them.\r |
| 168 | Had a 20-something at my last job make a number of comments\r |
| 169 | about some of the older developers there, saying they'd hate\r |
| 170 | to still be working at that age, and that they are probably\r |
| 171 | stuck doing the same work because they can't learn anything\r |
| 172 | new. I don't know why he was telling me this, as I was twice\r |
| 173 | his age at the time, but it's obvious that he doesn't think\r |
| 174 | he'll be in the same position.\r |
| 175 | They ultimately did lay off a lot of their senior engineers\r |
| 176 | and replace a lot of the position with 20-somethings,\r |
| 177 | including in project management positions. A number of those\r |
| 178 | projects never saw the light of day after years of re-writes\r |
| 179 | into new frameworks.\r |
| 180 | \r |
| 181 | \r |
| 182 | ** And yet there's agile (Score:2)\r |
| 183 | (by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ))\r |
| 184 | \r |
| 185 | \r |
| 186 | And open concept offices.\r |
| 187 | \r |
| 188 | ** Re:And yet there's agile (Score:5, Interesting)\r |
| 189 | (by Seven Spirals ( 4924941 ))\r |
| 190 | \r |
| 191 | \r |
| 192 | I've quit one job and refused two others because of open\r |
| 193 | offices. The two I refused were absolutely flabbergasted by\r |
| 194 | my refusal. They literally could not understand why anyone\r |
| 195 | wouldn't want to be in an open office space surrounded on 3.8\r |
| 196 | sides by glass-walled manager offices, loud ugly marketing\r |
| 197 | girls, and a bunch of H1B dudes who couldn't be bothered to\r |
| 198 | wear deodorant. That place (MX Logic) had the worst looking\r |
| 199 | office I've ever seen. One of them offered me the job on the\r |
| 200 | spot after the interview and I was already shutting them down\r |
| 201 | and refusing it before they even got started. I told them\r |
| 202 | there is about a zero percent chance of getting anyone really\r |
| 203 | talented to take the gig, because they had this ridiculous\r |
| 204 | noisy slave pit thing going. I nearly left before I even\r |
| 205 | *did* the interview I was so disgusted with the place. The\r |
| 206 | hiring manager was (of course) offended, but he was also\r |
| 207 | clueless. About a year after that interview I had a guy come\r |
| 208 | up to me at the local Maker Space who was one of the\r |
| 209 | "technical resources" for the company during the interview\r |
| 210 | (quiet guy in the back of the room). He told me "My god was I\r |
| 211 | cheering when you refused them over the goddamn open\r |
| 212 | workspace idiocy. My boss was upset over that for weeks. They\r |
| 213 | still talk about it during the hiring process and argue about\r |
| 214 | it."\r |
| 215 | \r |
| 216 | ** Re: (Score:1)\r |
| 217 | (by bkmoore ( 1910118 ))\r |
| 218 | \r |
| 219 | \r |
| 220 | > ....One of them offered me the job on the spot after the\r |
| 221 | > interview and I was already shutting them down and\r |
| 222 | > refusing it before they even got started.....\r |
| 223 | It begs the question, why even apply there in the first\r |
| 224 | place.\r |
| 225 | \r |
| 226 | ** Re: (Score:3)\r |
| 227 | (by Klaxton ( 609696 ))\r |
| 228 | \r |
| 229 | \r |
| 230 | > It begs the question, why even apply there in the first\r |
| 231 | > place.\r |
| 232 | So you could see their office environment tucked away\r |
| 233 | behind the job description on the internet?\r |
| 234 | \r |
| 235 | \r |
| 236 | \r |
| 237 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 238 | (by Ocker3 ( 1232550 ))\r |
| 239 | \r |
| 240 | \r |
| 241 | "But I can See everyone and I know that they're working" -\r |
| 242 | Manager If someone doesn't know enough about their direct\r |
| 243 | report's job that they don't know whether they're working\r |
| 244 | or not without seeing them at their desk, there's a\r |
| 245 | problem. Not all jobs are reduced in efficiency by a\r |
| 246 | cubicle farm, but if your job is primarily about mental\r |
| 247 | focus for the time-intensive tasks, then most people will\r |
| 248 | benefit from having their own room. And the employer will\r |
| 249 | probably benefit enough that an actual room is a\r |
| 250 | worthwhile\r |
| 251 | \r |
| 252 | \r |
| 253 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 254 | (by erp_consultant ( 2614861 ))\r |
| 255 | \r |
| 256 | \r |
| 257 | Sounds like a real horror show. Safe to say you made the\r |
| 258 | right move.\r |
| 259 | \r |
| 260 | \r |
| 261 | \r |
| 262 | ** Re: (Score:3)\r |
| 263 | (by Klaxton ( 609696 ))\r |
| 264 | \r |
| 265 | \r |
| 266 | I've worked in the industry for many years, usually with a\r |
| 267 | private office or shared with one person. Recently got a job\r |
| 268 | in an agile "scrum" shop, which went to an open floorplan a\r |
| 269 | few months later. Miserable experience on both counts. Every\r |
| 270 | day you get a Jira work ticket for some "the user wants to\r |
| 271 | see" granule of a thing that you had no part in designing.\r |
| 272 | Zero privacy. It is amazingly de-motivating.\r |
| 273 | \r |
| 274 | \r |
| 275 | ** \r |
| 276 | \r |
| 277 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 278 | (by HornWumpus ( 783565 ))\r |
| 279 | \r |
| 280 | \r |
| 281 | Microsoft owns javascript? You have things backwards.\r |
| 282 | \r |
| 283 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 284 | (by gweihir ( 88907 ))\r |
| 285 | \r |
| 286 | \r |
| 287 | I was thinking the same thing. Although JavaScript, Java,\r |
| 288 | and the surrounding ecosystems could have come from MS, no\r |
| 289 | doubt.\r |
| 290 | \r |
| 291 | \r |
| 292 | \r |
| 293 | ** Yeah, right (Score:5, Insightful)\r |
| 294 | (by Anonymous Coward)\r |
| 295 | \r |
| 296 | \r |
| 297 | If they considered developers more important than money, they'd\r |
| 298 | pay the developers more to keep the skilled ones. Every time a\r |
| 299 | developer leaves a company, a hunk of business knowledge walks\r |
| 300 | out the door with him.\r |
| 301 | Companies care about that quarter's finance report, and the\r |
| 302 | C-level execs care only about fleecing the company for all they\r |
| 303 | can stuff into their own pockets. Look at what they do, not what\r |
| 304 | some survey says.\r |
| 305 | \r |
| 306 | ** \r |
| 307 | \r |
| 308 | ** Re: (Score:3, Interesting)\r |
| 309 | (by Anonymous Coward)\r |
| 310 | \r |
| 311 | \r |
| 312 | LOL. You've massively understated the ageism and the issue\r |
| 313 | of job qualifications.\r |
| 314 | First, the ageism problem is associated also with a\r |
| 315 | problem that people aren't allowed to take breaks. After\r |
| 316 | having great success even to the point of being a chief\r |
| 317 | architect on an 80-man program, I quit working for a while\r |
| 318 | and now can't find anyone who will let me start at the\r |
| 319 | bottom.\r |
| 320 | But, the job qualification thing is really ridiculous. A\r |
| 321 | good software engineer is a specialist at picking up new\r |
| 322 | domains, languages, frameworks,\r |
| 323 | \r |
| 324 | \r |
| 325 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 326 | (by Anonymous Brave Guy ( 457657 ))\r |
| 327 | \r |
| 328 | \r |
| 329 | > Don't know where you live, but in most places I think\r |
| 330 | > developers are paid fairly well. We offer\r |
| 331 | > straight-out-of-school newbies $80-$90k, and still some\r |
| 332 | > turn us down for better offers.\r |
| 333 | Most places are not the Bay Area or a few big US cities.\r |
| 334 | In most of the world, new starter salaries in software\r |
| 335 | development are rarely more than 1/3 of that level, and in\r |
| 336 | many places they are much lower.\r |
| 337 | \r |
| 338 | \r |
| 339 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 340 | (by Ocker3 ( 1232550 ))\r |
| 341 | \r |
| 342 | \r |
| 343 | Your post is probably at zero rep because it was posted\r |
| 344 | AC, but you make good points.\r |
| 345 | \r |
| 346 | \r |
| 347 | \r |
| 348 | ** \r |
| 349 | \r |
| 350 | ** Re: (Score:3)\r |
| 351 | (by Klaxton ( 609696 ))\r |
| 352 | \r |
| 353 | \r |
| 354 | Software developers generally have to do what they are told,\r |
| 355 | and work on whatever the boss thinks is important. You don't\r |
| 356 | get to decide whether it is going to bring in money or not.\r |
| 357 | \r |
| 358 | \r |
| 359 | ** Yeah haven't heard that one before (Score:2)\r |
| 360 | (by Crashmarik ( 635988 ))\r |
| 361 | \r |
| 362 | \r |
| 363 | Maybe it just sounds too much like 40 years of businesses\r |
| 364 | claiming there was a shortage of engineers in the U.S. when what\r |
| 365 | they meant was there was a shortage of engineers that could be\r |
| 366 | treated really badly.\r |
| 367 | Or maybe it's the fact that companies only seem to be willing to\r |
| 368 | hire H1Bs that will do anything not to go back to their\r |
| 369 | shitholes, or young kids who are stupid enough to believe\r |
| 370 | managements promises and have no family or social life to\r |
| 371 | distract from putting in 80+ hour weeks ?\r |
| 372 | \r |
| 373 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 374 | (by zlives ( 2009072 ))\r |
| 375 | \r |
| 376 | \r |
| 377 | you misread, and i quote\r |
| 378 | "developer talent is a threat to the success of their\r |
| 379 | business" thus the hiring of no talent, spot filling h1b. and\r |
| 380 | if they accidentally get a talented h1b... replace and\r |
| 381 | repeat.\r |
| 382 | \r |
| 383 | \r |
| 384 | ** FTFY (Score:5, Funny)\r |
| 385 | (by thevirtualcat ( 1071504 ))\r |
| 386 | \r |
| 387 | \r |
| 388 | Software Developers Who Are Willing To Work For Uncompetitive\r |
| 389 | Wages And No Benefits Are Now More Valuable To Companies Than\r |
| 390 | Money, Says Survey\r |
| 391 | \r |
| 392 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 393 | (by Seven Spirals ( 4924941 ))\r |
| 394 | \r |
| 395 | \r |
| 396 | Fucking-A right. Period.\r |
| 397 | \r |
| 398 | \r |
| 399 | ** .ORG (Score:4, Insightful)\r |
| 400 | (by fluffernutter ( 1411889 ))\r |
| 401 | \r |
| 402 | \r |
| 403 | This just tells me that developers need to get organized and\r |
| 404 | start saying no to 80+ work weeks collectively. Otherwise it\r |
| 405 | will be divided they fall, forever.\r |
| 406 | \r |
| 407 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 408 | (by Ocker3 ( 1232550 ))\r |
| 409 | \r |
| 410 | \r |
| 411 | How do we re-invent Unions without calling them Unions and\r |
| 412 | avoid the very real baggage that the term has in the USA?\r |
| 413 | Guilds?\r |
| 414 | \r |
| 415 | \r |
| 416 | ** In other news... (Score:1)\r |
| 417 | (by Robobox Computer ( 5357621 ))\r |
| 418 | \r |
| 419 | \r |
| 420 | The sun rose today.\r |
| 421 | \r |
| 422 | ** Legacy systems are out of control (Score:2)\r |
| 423 | (by xack ( 5304745 ))\r |
| 424 | \r |
| 425 | \r |
| 426 | Microsoft has just announced paid extended support for Windows 7\r |
| 427 | as too many companies are using it. There’s a lot of server 2003\r |
| 428 | systems out there too, with companies rather risking security\r |
| 429 | exploits than upgrade.\r |
| 430 | \r |
| 431 | ** \r |
| 432 | \r |
| 433 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 434 | (by Ocker3 ( 1232550 ))\r |
| 435 | \r |
| 436 | \r |
| 437 | A pity that new features aren't separated from security\r |
| 438 | patches to allow users to keep their old platform secure\r |
| 439 | without feature changes.\r |
| 440 | \r |
| 441 | \r |
| 442 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 443 | (by xvan ( 2935999 ))\r |
| 444 | \r |
| 445 | \r |
| 446 | > Newer file browsers no longer let you edit the file path,\r |
| 447 | > you have to click on everything to get somewhere\r |
| 448 | Ctrl+L , no, you don't need to thank me.\r |
| 449 | \r |
| 450 | \r |
| 451 | \r |
| 452 | ** Re: (Score:1)\r |
| 453 | (by Anonymous Coward)\r |
| 454 | \r |
| 455 | \r |
| 456 | So I'm supposed to upgrade the single Windows 2003 system I\r |
| 457 | have, running as a non-networked VM, hosting a proprietary\r |
| 458 | application on a system we need to lookup legacy data that\r |
| 459 | never changes so I can pay to upgrade to a modern system,\r |
| 460 | figure out a way to migrate the data from one proprietary\r |
| 461 | application to a new and different system just so I can have\r |
| 462 | support I don't need on a system that can't realistically be\r |
| 463 | exploited in the first place?\r |
| 464 | OR I'm supposed to pay a premium for extended support on the\r |
| 465 | curren\r |
| 466 | \r |
| 467 | \r |
| 468 | ** Re: (Score:3)\r |
| 469 | (by gweihir ( 88907 ))\r |
| 470 | \r |
| 471 | \r |
| 472 | That is a different problem. Their new offerings are just\r |
| 473 | really bad. Also, nobody sane used MS crap on server-side.\r |
| 474 | \r |
| 475 | \r |
| 476 | ** Yet us 50+ folks are unemployed (Score:4, Informative)\r |
| 477 | (by Snotnose ( 212196 ))\r |
| 478 | \r |
| 479 | \r |
| 480 | Forget how long I've been out of work, it's been 2-3 years now\r |
| 481 | since I quit looking.\r |
| 482 | \r |
| 483 | ** Re: (Score:3)\r |
| 484 | (by Locke2005 ( 849178 ))\r |
| 485 | \r |
| 486 | \r |
| 487 | I'm 57 and got at least 3 calls TODAY offering to submit me\r |
| 488 | for contract software positions. Granted, a lot of recruiters\r |
| 489 | try to low-ball me on the hourly rate, but they change their\r |
| 490 | tune as soon as you call their bluff and tell them you're not\r |
| 491 | interested at that low rate.\r |
| 492 | \r |
| 493 | ** Re: (Score:1)\r |
| 494 | (by Anonymous Coward)\r |
| 495 | \r |
| 496 | \r |
| 497 | > I'm 57 and got at least 3 calls TODAY offering to submit\r |
| 498 | > me for contract software positions. Granted, a lot of\r |
| 499 | > recruiters try to low-ball me on the hourly rate, but they\r |
| 500 | > change their tune as soon as you call their bluff and tell\r |
| 501 | > them you're not interested at that low rate.\r |
| 502 | I get recruiters wanting to submit me all the time. Then\r |
| 503 | after a week, I follow up and the "the position is\r |
| 504 | closed." I think recruiters are assholes who got fired\r |
| 505 | from see car lots for ethics violations.\r |
| 506 | So, when you get a real job with health insurance, you'll\r |
| 507 | be an outlier.\r |
| 508 | Of course, that's assumimg you're not full of shit.\r |
| 509 | \r |
| 510 | ** Re: (Score:2)\r |
| 511 | (by Locke2005 ( 849178 ))\r |
| 512 | \r |
| 513 | \r |
| 514 | I agree; I regard recruiters as people that weren't\r |
| 515 | ethical enough to get jobs as used car salesmen. I\r |
| 516 | interviewed for a job once, didn't get any response, so\r |
| 517 | I started another position. A month after the initial\r |
| 518 | interview, the recruiter for the first position offered\r |
| 519 | me $1500 cash in a plain, unmarked envelope to quit the\r |
| 520 | job I'd just started and take the other position\r |
| 521 | instead! (Apparently the cash came out of his\r |
| 522 | commission.) So yes, recruiters know nothing, rely\r |
| 523 | almost entirely on keyword searching in r\r |
| 524 | \r |
| 525 | \r |
| 526 | \r |
| 527 | \r |
| 528 | ** So, the old adage? (Score:2)\r |
| 529 | (by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ))\r |
| 530 | \r |
| 531 | \r |
| 532 | Employees are our most valuable asset? I'm pretty sure it's\r |
| 533 | actually still money.\r |
| 534 | \r |
| 535 | ** Nonsensical headline... (Score:2)\r |
| 536 | (by JoeDuncan ( 874519 ))\r |
| 537 | \r |
| 538 | \r |
| 539 | It's like saying "gold is worth more than money!" - totally\r |
| 540 | meaningless.\r |
| 541 | One (gold, developers) is a commodity that IS exchanged, the\r |
| 542 | other (money) is the medium OF exchange.\r |
| 543 | Saying that "commodity X" is worth more than "exchange medium Y"\r |
| 544 | makes no sense because a commodity CANNOT be worth "more" or\r |
| 545 | "less" than the medium of exchange used - it can only ever be\r |
| 546 | worth a specified amount of Y.\r |
| 547 | \r |
| 548 | ** Talk about not understanding an article / Poll (Score:2)\r |
| 549 | (by Harlequin80 ( 1671040 ))\r |
| 550 | \r |
| 551 | \r |
| 552 | No where does it say that companies think developers are more\r |
| 553 | important than money.\r |
| 554 | The results state that the companies perceive the risk of not\r |
| 555 | being able to find skills as higher than the risks of not being\r |
| 556 | able to access capital.\r |
| 557 | This is especially true if you're a cash rich organisation.\r |
| 558 | In the current financial climate finding returns on your\r |
| 559 | investments is hard. Interest rates are at historically low\r |
| 560 | levels, bond returns are zero, and so that leaves higher risk\r |
| 561 | investments to get returns. That effecti\r |
| 562 | \r |
| 563 | ** lots of employees are "worth more than money"... (Score:2)\r |
| 564 | (by bkmoore ( 1910118 ))\r |
| 565 | \r |
| 566 | \r |
| 567 | What management school fails to teach young inexperienced\r |
| 568 | executives: If the company's future existence depends on whether\r |
| 569 | or not an employee does the job correctly or not, they are\r |
| 570 | "worth more than money".\r |
| 571 | \r |
| 572 | ** Tech debt is a business decision (Score:2)\r |
| 573 | (by swm ( 171547 ))\r |
| 574 | \r |
| 575 | \r |
| 576 | Incurring technical debt is a business decision.\r |
| 577 | And it may well be the right decision.\r |
| 578 | For example, in a startup, time to market typically trumps\r |
| 579 | software quality.\r |
| 580 | And there are a lot of startups in the software field...\r |
| 581 | \r |
| 582 | ** Not at my compamy (Score:1)\r |
| 583 | (by dccase ( 56453 ))\r |
| 584 | \r |
| 585 | \r |
| 586 | Not at my company, and certainly not at any other\r |
| 587 | publicly-traded company.\r |
| 588 | Maybe at some privately-held company until it gets bought out.\r |
| 589 | \r |
| 590 | ** Employees are our Most Valuable Asset (Score:3)\r |
| 591 | (by R3d M3rcury ( 871886 ))\r |
| 592 | \r |
| 593 | \r |
| 594 | Right behind [1]carbon paper. [dilbert.com]\r |
| 595 | \r |
| 596 | \r |
| 597 | \r |
| 598 | \r |
| 599 | [1] http://dilbert.com/strip/1993-03-03\r |
| 600 | \r |
| 601 | ** And this is why we keep them chained to (Score:2)\r |
| 602 | (by Ranger ( 1783 ))\r |
| 603 | \r |
| 604 | \r |
| 605 | a cubicle.\r |
| 606 | \r |
| 607 | \r |