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    GOOGLE INVESTIGATING ISSUE WITH BLURRY FONTS ON NEW CHROME 69  \r
                             (ZDNET.COM)                           \r
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  Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (msmash)\r
  from the blurry-texts dept.\r
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  o Reference: 0102638976\r
  o News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1839242/google-investigating-issue-with-blurry-fonts-on-new-chrome-69\r
  o Source link: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-investigating-issue-with-blurry-fonts-on-new-chrome-69/\r
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    Since  the release of Chrome 69 earlier this week, countless of\r
    users  have  gone  on social media and Google Product Forums to\r
    complain  about  "blurry" or "fuzzy" text inside Chrome. ZDNet:\r
    The  blurred  font  issue  isn't  only limited to text rendered\r
    inside   a  web  page,  users  said,  but  also  for  the  text\r
    suggestions  displayed inside the address bar search drop-down,\r
    and   Chrome's   Developer  Tools  panel.  [...]  According  to\r
    reports,  the  issue  only  manifests  for  Chrome  69 users on\r
    Windows.  Those  who  rolled  back  to Chrome 68 stopped having\r
    problems.  Users  said  that changing Chrome, operating system,\r
    or  screen DPI settings didn't help. "Our team is investigating\r
    reports  of  this  behavior.  You  can find more information in\r
    this  public bug report," a Google spokesperson said last night\r
    after  first  user  complaints  started  surfacing online. Some\r
    users  have  also  expressed  concerns  over Chrome not showing\r
    "trivial  subdomains" including www and secure lock sign in the\r
    address bar.\r
\r
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  ** Whats the deal (Score:2)\r
     (by 110010001000 ( 697113 ))\r
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     \r
     Whats the deal with the new interface. Looks like we are back to\r
     rounded corners again.\r
\r
     ** \r
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        ** Re: (Score:1)\r
           (by 110010001000 ( 697113 ))\r
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           \r
           And what's the deal with decaf coffee? How do they get the\r
           caffeine out of there, and then where does it go?\r
\r
           ** Re: (Score:1)\r
              (by Anonymous Coward)\r
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              \r
              Why do they put caffeine in coffee and then take it\r
              back out?\r
              And why if Chrome rendering fonts in the first place?\r
              That's a job for the operating system.\r
\r
\r
           ** Re: Whats the deal (Score:2)\r
              (by spongman ( 182339 ))\r
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              \r
              dichloromethe (or ethyl acetate) leeching.\r
\r
\r
\r
        ** Re: (Score:2)\r
           (by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ))\r
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           \r
           Score: 5, That's gold Jerry, GOLD!\r
\r
\r
\r
  ** So Chrome 69 makes you blind? (Score:4, Funny)\r
     (by the_skywise ( 189793 ))\r
\r
     \r
     The jokes write themselves...\r
\r
  ** Blurry Fonts... (Score:2)\r
     (by Oswald McWeany ( 2428506 ))\r
\r
     \r
     Maybe they need to put on their Google Glass so they can read\r
     the fonts clearer.\r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:3)\r
        (by Z00L00K ( 682162 ))\r
\r
        \r
        They just started to use Cleartype and the fuzzy fonts.\r
        Both cleartype and fuzzy fonts gives me a headache so I have\r
        to use uBlock to revert to the browser default when I run\r
        Firefox.\r
\r
\r
  ** I bet you (Score:5, Insightful)\r
     (by The MAZZTer ( 911996 ))\r
\r
     \r
     If these are Windows users they screwed with the Compatibility\r
     Mode options for DPI in order to make the window smaller or\r
     bigger. It looked fine until Google did something differently\r
     and now the Compatibility Mode options make it look blurry.\r
     Turns out using options designed for use on legacy applications\r
     only on modern applications introduces problems. Lots of Steam\r
     users have similar problems.\r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
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        \r
        Wrong. I use the standard DPI settings for the whole screen\r
        (1.5x on my 27" 4K screen), which only works with programs\r
        that are DPI-aware. It's true that I didn't notice the blurry\r
        fonts until I saw the headline, but I really just thought I\r
        was that tired (I've only had 69 for about a day). At least\r
        for me, it's fairly mild.\r
\r
        ** \r
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           ** Re: (Score:2)\r
              (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
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              \r
              If it looks significantly worse, it could also have\r
              nothing at all to do with the bug - Chrome is DPI aware\r
              and should never have that enabled. Especially since\r
              the bug report doesn't have any mention of anything but\r
              the system DPI setting.\r
\r
\r
\r
        ** \r
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           ** Re: (Score:2)\r
              (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
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              \r
              So you like the way I word it (No Giggity).\r
\r
\r
\r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:3)\r
        (by Solandri ( 704621 ))\r
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        \r
        The problem is there are three ways to tweak the DPI.\r
        Compatibility Mode, which can be set on a per-app basis.\r
        Display scaling, which is set via the Windows desktop and\r
        affects everything. And Advanced Scaling which Microsoft\r
        introduced with the Spring Creators Update, which I haven't\r
        figured out exactly how it's different from the regular\r
        Display Scaling.\r
        \r
        Under the hood, there's also ClearType which runs on top of\r
        DPI scaling, and does [1]subpixel rendering  [grc.com] (using\r
        the individual red, green, and blue subp\r
        \r
        \r
        \r
        \r
        [1] https://www.grc.com/ctwhat.htm\r
\r
        ** Re: (Score:2)\r
           (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
\r
           \r
           Looking at some zoomed in screenshots, I think they're\r
           scaling the subpixel rendering itself (which should never\r
           happen). There is no reason to have red or blue tint on\r
           anything but the outermost pixel, but looking at my\r
           screenshot close up I'm seeing two side-by-side bluish or\r
           reddish pixels.\r
\r
\r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by Scoth ( 879800 ))\r
\r
        \r
        Even on Chrome 69 on my multi-DPI work setup I have to turn\r
        on the DPI scaling compatibility mode/override to not get\r
        huge dialog boxes and widgets. It's a bit frustrating to me\r
        that a currently supported, modern app would still have\r
        problems with that.\r
\r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by Ingenium13 ( 162116 ))\r
\r
        \r
        Nope, I have a Windows VM that's essentially stock that I use\r
        for a couple applications. I had Chrome open in it earlier\r
        today, and noticed that the fonts were blurry and were giving\r
        me a headache after a few minutes of use. I thought maybe it\r
        was something with RDP messing it up, but after I read this,\r
        I logged in again and verified that the fuzzy fonts are only\r
        in Chrome. All other applications are fine.\r
\r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by greenwow ( 3635575 ))\r
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        \r
        And most Windows apps. For most of our users on Windows 10,\r
        Windows apps have blurry text no matter what settings we try.\r
        That really sucks for developers that need to read a lot of\r
        text.\r
\r
\r
     ** \r
\r
        ** Re: I bet you (Score:2)\r
           (by spongman ( 182339 ))\r
\r
           \r
           They don't?\r
\r
\r
\r
  ** Not new (Score:2)\r
     (by Tailhook ( 98486 ))\r
\r
     \r
     Chrome has been having this problem for certain desktop users\r
     for a while now. There are workaround flags and whatnot. Just\r
     another chronic quality problem in Chrome that never gets\r
     fixed....\r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:1)\r
        (by MidSpeck ( 1516577 ))\r
\r
        \r
        True. I had to disable "Accelerated 2D canvas" in order to\r
        get the fuzziness to go away on mine on Chrome 68, which was\r
        working just fine before that.\r
\r
\r
  ** \r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by Z34107 ( 925136 ))\r
\r
        \r
        Text wrapping is a "solved" problem, too, but you're still\r
        doing it by hand for some reason.\r
\r
\r
  ** While they're at it (Score:2)\r
     (by Pedestrianwolf ( 1591767 ))\r
\r
     \r
     ..maybe they could also roll back all rounded rectangles they\r
     added in v69. Everything is so round it feels like I designed it\r
     in my basement.\r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:3)\r
        (by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ))\r
\r
        \r
        Chrome has a major UI re-design? Firefox is going to be\r
        pulling some late nights to catch up!\r
\r
\r
  ** It's also has performance regressions (Score:2)\r
     (by Suren Enfiajyan ( 4600031 ))\r
\r
     \r
     On my Lenovo G570 the latest chrome also has very high CPU usage\r
     on [1]slither.io game [slither.io] and the game turns into a\r
     slideshow in places with many snakes. Firefox 61 doesn't suffer\r
     from the this problem, despite the fact that its slower almost\r
     in any regard. But not this time.\r
     \r
     \r
     \r
     \r
     [1] http://slither.io/\r
\r
  ** BSOD (Score:2)\r
     (by jimbrooking ( 1909170 ))\r
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     \r
     After installing ALL pages I visit are pure black. No text or\r
     graphics.\r
\r
     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by jimbrooking ( 1909170 ))\r
\r
        \r
        Fix (Win 7 Home): Uninstall Chrome, delete all browsing date.\r
        reinstall Chrome, be dazzled by the curviness.\r
\r
\r
  ** Can someone summarize the linked article? (Score:4, Funny)\r
     (by kaizendojo ( 956951 ))\r
\r
     \r
     I upgraded and I can't read it.\r
\r
  ** See Jeff Probst ... (Score:2)\r
     (by CaptainDork ( 3678879 ))\r
\r
     \r
     ... about this.\r
     I remember on Survivor®, back in the day, they had a "blurry\r
     tit," problem.\r
     They fixed that by disallowing exposed tits.\r
     Google should remove the tits from their fonts.\r
\r
  ** trivial subdomain hiding (Score:2)\r
     (by Zaiff Urgulbunger ( 591514 ))\r
\r
     \r
     So this "trivial subdomain hiding" thing... it's a crap idea\r
     right?\r
\r
  ** Here's my take as a Mac user (Score:2)\r
     (by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ))\r
\r
     \r
     First of all, I really hate these thin fonts. They may look neat\r
     on hi-DPI displays but not everyone has one.\r
     Secondly, the text on the left screen capture looks like it had\r
     its pixels hammered to the nearest pixel, which is the typical\r
     crappy-looking Microsoft anti-aliasing while the text on the\r
     right looks like normal anti-aliased text to me.\r
\r
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Commit	Line	Data
299a08f3 NR	1	GOOGLE INVESTIGATING ISSUE WITH BLURRY FONTS ON NEW CHROME 69 \r
	2	(ZDNET.COM) \r
	3	\r
	4	Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (msmash)\r
	5	from the blurry-texts dept.\r
	6	\r
c715ea02	7	o Reference: 0102638976\r
299a08f3 NR	8	o News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1839242/google-investigating-issue-with-blurry-fonts-on-new-chrome-69\r
	9	o Source link: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-investigating-issue-with-blurry-fonts-on-new-chrome-69/\r
	10	\r
	11	\r
	12	Since the release of Chrome 69 earlier this week, countless of\r
	13	users have gone on social media and Google Product Forums to\r
	14	complain about "blurry" or "fuzzy" text inside Chrome. ZDNet:\r
	15	The blurred font issue isn't only limited to text rendered\r
	16	inside a web page, users said, but also for the text\r
	17	suggestions displayed inside the address bar search drop-down,\r
	18	and Chrome's Developer Tools panel. [...] According to\r
	19	reports, the issue only manifests for Chrome 69 users on\r
	20	Windows. Those who rolled back to Chrome 68 stopped having\r
	21	problems. Users said that changing Chrome, operating system,\r
	22	or screen DPI settings didn't help. "Our team is investigating\r
	23	reports of this behavior. You can find more information in\r
	24	this public bug report," a Google spokesperson said last night\r
	25	after first user complaints started surfacing online. Some\r
	26	users have also expressed concerns over Chrome not showing\r
	27	"trivial subdomains" including www and secure lock sign in the\r
	28	address bar.\r
	29	\r
	30	\r
	31	** Whats the deal (Score:2)\r
	32	(by 110010001000 ( 697113 ))\r
	33	\r
	34	\r
	35	Whats the deal with the new interface. Looks like we are back to\r
	36	rounded corners again.\r
	37	\r
	38	** \r
	39	\r
	40	** Re: (Score:1)\r
	41	(by 110010001000 ( 697113 ))\r
	42	\r
	43	\r
	44	And what's the deal with decaf coffee? How do they get the\r
	45	caffeine out of there, and then where does it go?\r
	46	\r
	47	** Re: (Score:1)\r
	48	(by Anonymous Coward)\r
	49	\r
	50	\r
	51	Why do they put caffeine in coffee and then take it\r
	52	back out?\r
	53	And why if Chrome rendering fonts in the first place?\r
	54	That's a job for the operating system.\r
	55	\r
	56	\r
	57	** Re: Whats the deal (Score:2)\r
	58	(by spongman ( 182339 ))\r
	59	\r
	60	\r
	61	dichloromethe (or ethyl acetate) leeching.\r
	62	\r
	63	\r
	64	\r
	65	** Re: (Score:2)\r
	66	(by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ))\r
	67	\r
	68	\r
	69	Score: 5, That's gold Jerry, GOLD!\r
	70	\r
	71	\r
72	\r
73	** So Chrome 69 makes you blind? (Score:4, Funny)\r
74	(by the_skywise ( 189793 ))\r
75	\r
76	\r
77	The jokes write themselves...\r
78	\r
79	** Blurry Fonts... (Score:2)\r
80	(by Oswald McWeany ( 2428506 ))\r
81	\r
82	\r
83	Maybe they need to put on their Google Glass so they can read\r
84	the fonts clearer.\r
85	\r
86	** Re: (Score:3)\r
87	(by Z00L00K ( 682162 ))\r
88	\r
89	\r
90	They just started to use Cleartype and the fuzzy fonts.\r
91	Both cleartype and fuzzy fonts gives me a headache so I have\r
92	to use uBlock to revert to the browser default when I run\r
93	Firefox.\r
94	\r
95	\r
96	** I bet you (Score:5, Insightful)\r
97	(by The MAZZTer ( 911996 ))\r
98	\r
99	\r
100	If these are Windows users they screwed with the Compatibility\r
101	Mode options for DPI in order to make the window smaller or\r
102	bigger. It looked fine until Google did something differently\r
103	and now the Compatibility Mode options make it look blurry.\r
104	Turns out using options designed for use on legacy applications\r
105	only on modern applications introduces problems. Lots of Steam\r
106	users have similar problems.\r
107	\r
108	** Re: (Score:2)\r
109	(by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
110	\r
111	\r
112	Wrong. I use the standard DPI settings for the whole screen\r
113	(1.5x on my 27" 4K screen), which only works with programs\r
114	that are DPI-aware. It's true that I didn't notice the blurry\r
115	fonts until I saw the headline, but I really just thought I\r
116	was that tired (I've only had 69 for about a day). At least\r
117	for me, it's fairly mild.\r
118	\r
119	** \r
120	\r
121	** Re: (Score:2)\r
122	(by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
123	\r
124	\r
125	If it looks significantly worse, it could also have\r
126	nothing at all to do with the bug - Chrome is DPI aware\r
127	and should never have that enabled. Especially since\r
128	the bug report doesn't have any mention of anything but\r
129	the system DPI setting.\r
130	\r
131	\r
132	\r
133	** \r
134	\r
135	** Re: (Score:2)\r
136	(by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
137	\r
138	\r
139	So you like the way I word it (No Giggity).\r
140	\r
141	\r
142	\r
143	\r
144	** Re: (Score:3)\r
145	(by Solandri ( 704621 ))\r
146	\r
147	\r
148	The problem is there are three ways to tweak the DPI.\r
149	Compatibility Mode, which can be set on a per-app basis.\r
150	Display scaling, which is set via the Windows desktop and\r
151	affects everything. And Advanced Scaling which Microsoft\r
152	introduced with the Spring Creators Update, which I haven't\r
153	figured out exactly how it's different from the regular\r
154	Display Scaling.\r
155	\r
156	Under the hood, there's also ClearType which runs on top of\r
157	DPI scaling, and does [1]subpixel rendering [grc.com] (using\r
158	the individual red, green, and blue subp\r
159	\r
160	\r
161	\r
162	\r
163	[1] https://www.grc.com/ctwhat.htm\r
164	\r
165	** Re: (Score:2)\r
166	(by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
167	\r
168	\r
169	Looking at some zoomed in screenshots, I think they're\r
170	scaling the subpixel rendering itself (which should never\r
171	happen). There is no reason to have red or blue tint on\r
172	anything but the outermost pixel, but looking at my\r
173	screenshot close up I'm seeing two side-by-side bluish or\r
174	reddish pixels.\r
175	\r
176	\r
177	\r
178	** Re: (Score:2)\r
179	(by Scoth ( 879800 ))\r
180	\r
181	\r
182	Even on Chrome 69 on my multi-DPI work setup I have to turn\r
183	on the DPI scaling compatibility mode/override to not get\r
184	huge dialog boxes and widgets. It's a bit frustrating to me\r
185	that a currently supported, modern app would still have\r
186	problems with that.\r
187	\r
188	\r
189	** Re: (Score:2)\r
190	(by Ingenium13 ( 162116 ))\r
191	\r
192	\r
193	Nope, I have a Windows VM that's essentially stock that I use\r
194	for a couple applications. I had Chrome open in it earlier\r
195	today, and noticed that the fonts were blurry and were giving\r
196	me a headache after a few minutes of use. I thought maybe it\r
197	was something with RDP messing it up, but after I read this,\r
198	I logged in again and verified that the fuzzy fonts are only\r
199	in Chrome. All other applications are fine.\r
200	\r
201	\r
202	** Re: (Score:2)\r
203	(by greenwow ( 3635575 ))\r
204	\r
205	\r
206	And most Windows apps. For most of our users on Windows 10,\r
207	Windows apps have blurry text no matter what settings we try.\r
208	That really sucks for developers that need to read a lot of\r
209	text.\r
210	\r
211	\r
212	** \r
213	\r
214	** Re: I bet you (Score:2)\r
215	(by spongman ( 182339 ))\r
216	\r
217	\r
218	They don't?\r
219	\r
220	\r
221	\r
222	** Not new (Score:2)\r
223	(by Tailhook ( 98486 ))\r
224	\r
225	\r
226	Chrome has been having this problem for certain desktop users\r
227	for a while now. There are workaround flags and whatnot. Just\r
228	another chronic quality problem in Chrome that never gets\r
229	fixed....\r
230	\r
231	** Re: (Score:1)\r
232	(by MidSpeck ( 1516577 ))\r
233	\r
234	\r
235	True. I had to disable "Accelerated 2D canvas" in order to\r
236	get the fuzziness to go away on mine on Chrome 68, which was\r
237	working just fine before that.\r
238	\r
239	\r
240	** \r
241	\r
242	** Re: (Score:2)\r
243	(by Z34107 ( 925136 ))\r
244	\r
245	\r
246	Text wrapping is a "solved" problem, too, but you're still\r
247	doing it by hand for some reason.\r
248	\r
249	\r
250	** While they're at it (Score:2)\r
251	(by Pedestrianwolf ( 1591767 ))\r
252	\r
253	\r
254	..maybe they could also roll back all rounded rectangles they\r
255	added in v69. Everything is so round it feels like I designed it\r
256	in my basement.\r
257	\r
258	** Re: (Score:3)\r
259	(by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ))\r
260	\r
261	\r
262	Chrome has a major UI re-design? Firefox is going to be\r
263	pulling some late nights to catch up!\r
264	\r
265	\r
266	** It's also has performance regressions (Score:2)\r
267	(by Suren Enfiajyan ( 4600031 ))\r
268	\r
269	\r
270	On my Lenovo G570 the latest chrome also has very high CPU usage\r
271	on [1]slither.io game [slither.io] and the game turns into a\r
272	slideshow in places with many snakes. Firefox 61 doesn't suffer\r
273	from the this problem, despite the fact that its slower almost\r
274	in any regard. But not this time.\r
275	\r
276	\r
277	\r
278	\r
279	[1] http://slither.io/\r
280	\r
281	** BSOD (Score:2)\r
282	(by jimbrooking ( 1909170 ))\r
283	\r
284	\r
285	After installing ALL pages I visit are pure black. No text or\r
286	graphics.\r
287	\r
288	** Re: (Score:2)\r
289	(by jimbrooking ( 1909170 ))\r
290	\r
291	\r
292	Fix (Win 7 Home): Uninstall Chrome, delete all browsing date.\r
293	reinstall Chrome, be dazzled by the curviness.\r
294	\r
295	\r
296	** Can someone summarize the linked article? (Score:4, Funny)\r
297	(by kaizendojo ( 956951 ))\r
298	\r
299	\r
300	I upgraded and I can't read it.\r
301	\r
302	** See Jeff Probst ... (Score:2)\r
303	(by CaptainDork ( 3678879 ))\r
304	\r
305	\r
306	... about this.\r
307	I remember on Survivor®, back in the day, they had a "blurry\r
308	tit," problem.\r
309	They fixed that by disallowing exposed tits.\r
310	Google should remove the tits from their fonts.\r
311	\r
312	** trivial subdomain hiding (Score:2)\r
313	(by Zaiff Urgulbunger ( 591514 ))\r
314	\r
315	\r
316	So this "trivial subdomain hiding" thing... it's a crap idea\r
317	right?\r
318	\r
319	** Here's my take as a Mac user (Score:2)\r
320	(by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ))\r
321	\r
322	\r
323	First of all, I really hate these thin fonts. They may look neat\r
324	on hi-DPI displays but not everyone has one.\r
325	Secondly, the text on the left screen capture looks like it had\r
326	its pixels hammered to the nearest pixel, which is the typical\r
327	crappy-looking Microsoft anti-aliasing while the text on the\r
328	right looks like normal anti-aliased text to me.\r
329	\r
330	\r