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1 'EVE ONLINE' STUDIO ACQUIRED BY KOREAN MMO MAKER (ENGADGET.COM) \r
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3 Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (msmash)\r
4 from the in-some-business-news dept.\r
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c715ea02 6 o Reference: 0102639448\r
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7 o News link: https://games.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1921222/eve-online-studio-acquired-by-korean-mmo-maker\r
8 o Source link: https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/06/eve-online-pearl-abyss-ccp-games/\r
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11 [1]MAXOMENOS writes:\r
12 \r
13 >\r
14 \r
15 >> EVE Online\r
16 \r
17 > developer CCP Games [2]has been acquired by Pearl Abyss ,\r
18 the South Korean studio behind the action-oriented MMORPG\r
19 Black Desert Online. According to [3]VentureBeat , the deal\r
20 was worth $425 million and will close in early October. It's a\r
21 surprise announcement for CCP, which has long operated as an\r
22 independent developer. Eve Online isn't the biggest MMORPG on\r
23 the market, but it has maintained a steady and loyal userbase\r
24 through continuous updates and a well-timed switch to a hybrid\r
25 premium and free-to-play model. The 15-year-old game is\r
26 unique, too, with its large-scale battles and notoriously\r
27 complex economic and political systems.\r
28 \r
29 \r
30 \r
31 [1] https://slashdot.org/~MAXOMENOS\r
32 \r
33 [2] https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2018/black-desert-online-cre-\r
34 ators-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp-games-makers-of-eve\r
35 \r
36 [3] https://venturebeat.com/2018/09/06/black-desert-online-cre-\r
37 ator-pearl-abyss-acquires-eve-online-maker-ccp-games-for-425-m-\r
38 illion/\r
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39\r
40\r
41 ** RIP Eve (Score:3)\r
42 (by spiritplumber ( 1944222 ))\r
43\r
44 \r
45 Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the userbase's\r
46 culture and wreck a good thing.\r
47\r
48 ** Re: (Score:3)\r
49 (by sinij ( 911942 ))\r
50\r
51 \r
52 If someone could make EVE more grindy, it would be a Korean\r
53 MMO maker. I don't see them misunderstanding that aspect, as\r
54 they invented Korean Grinder.\r
55\r
56\r
57 ** Re: (Score:3)\r
58 (by duke_cheetah2003 ( 862933 ))\r
59\r
60 \r
61 > Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the\r
62 > userbase's culture and wreck a good thing.\r
63 CCP already did that years ago.\r
64\r
65\r
66 ** \r
67\r
68 ** Re: (Score:1)\r
69 (by Anonymous Coward)\r
70\r
71 \r
72 Son, if Koreans will do anything it's inject sexy alien\r
73 women and bikini-space-armor into it.\r
74 East Asia never suffered the retardation of puritanism,\r
75 which is unique to the Western world owing to Abrahamic\r
76 doctrine, to develop Gymnophobia and Genophobia, so they\r
77 don't care about the Church-Feminist anti-sexualization\r
78 offense alliance. The only exception are the "Communist"\r
79 governments there.\r
80\r
81\r
82\r
83 ** \r
84\r
85 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
86 (by jeff4747 ( 256583 ))\r
87\r
88 \r
89 It's almost like you don't know there's already Korean and\r
90 Chinese alliances in Eve.......and they're not doing all\r
91 that well. I'm sure FRT will stop feeding Keepstars soon.\r
92\r
93\r
94\r
95 ** \r
96\r
97 ** Re: (Score:3)\r
98 (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))\r
99\r
100 \r
101 It was bad in the beta and never actually recovered from\r
102 some pretty bad development choices. Have they discovered\r
103 parallel processing yet? And version management? Okay, I\r
104 guess the last one was a bit mean. They must have\r
105 discovered Git by now.\r
106 But seriously, the game is an unstructured mess. Played it\r
107 for a while, flew a Machariel and did incursions, level 4\r
108 missions etc. but after a while it got boring. May pick it\r
109 up again though.\r
110\r
111\r
112\r
113 ** Not Good News (Score:4, Interesting)\r
114 (by Kunedog ( 1033226 ))\r
115\r
116 \r
117 Shamus Young has a series on Black Desert, explaining how\r
118 shockingly aggressive, expensive and game-ruining he found the\r
119 microtransactions system to be, even if you're familiar with the\r
120 worst of the American systems. There's manadatory PvP and\r
121 deliberately cramped inventory space but the "cash shop" can\r
122 always make things better (i.e. playable).\r
123 \r
124 I'd be worried if I were an EVE Online fan.\r
125 \r
126 [1]https://www.shamusyoung.com/tw... [shamusyoung.com]\r
127 > I see all the default clothes are bland and I need to pay real\r
128 > money for a cool outfit. Aesthetics are important to me. (Which\r
129 > is why I spend so much time on sculpting my character.) So I\r
130 > really don’t want to spend the rest of my time looking at these\r
131 > blando outfits. Sigh. Fine. What’s a pretend suit of armor cost\r
132 > these days? Three bucks? Five bucks?\r
133 > \r
134 > FORTY SIX AMERICAN DOLLARS? ARE YOU TRYING TO START A FIGHT?\r
135 > The cheap outfits can be had for $22. They also offer ladies\r
136 > underwear sets for just $7, if you want to run around in your\r
137 > underpants. (I don’t, thanks.)\r
138 > \r
139 > (They also offer similar options for male characters. I was\r
140 > tempted to get the outfit that would let my kung-fu guy go\r
141 > shirtless, because he’s a kung-fu dude. But all of the choices\r
142 > looked like modern-day boxers. You can’t just wear baggy pants\r
143 > with no shirt.)\r
144 > \r
145 > Would you like to dye that super-expensive outfit you just\r
146 > bought? Or any other outfit? That will set you back another $10.\r
147 > And that’s somehow a rental. Your ten bucks gets you a month of\r
148 > being allowed to have dyed clothes. After the month is up, your\r
149 > clothes revert to their original colors and you gotta fork over\r
150 > another $10.\r
151 > Do you enjoy wheeling and dealing at the auction house in other\r
152 > games, but the egregious 35% tax on all your sales is making it\r
153 > impossible for you to have fun or turn a profit? Pay fifteen\r
154 > real-world dollars and the tax will go down to the normal 5%.\r
155 > (For one month.)\r
156 > \r
157 > Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so\r
158 > outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off. It’s\r
159 > not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity of the\r
160 > seller to ask this much[2] for what should be trivial virtual\r
161 > goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still likely to get\r
162 > offended if someone tries to sell you a stick of ordinary gum\r
163 > for five bucks.\r
164 \r
165 \r
166 \r
167 \r
168 [1] https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=42507\r
169\r
170 ** Re: (Score:3, Interesting)\r
171 (by Anonymous Coward)\r
172\r
173 \r
174 > Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so\r
175 > outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off.\r
176 > It’s not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity\r
177 > of the seller to ask this much for what should be trivial\r
178 > virtual goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still\r
179 > likely to get offended if someone tries to sell you a stick\r
180 > of ordinary gum for five bucks.\r
181 Sometimes, I thought Stallman was being a pendant for gripes\r
182 about terminology like "intellectual property".\r
183 Now I realize he was exactly right.\r
184 This guy uses the words "virtual goods", like it's something\r
185 he'll actually own. Dollars to donuts, the EULA and TOS says\r
186 these 'virtual goods' are nothing more than bits on their\r
187 server, you don't own a single bit of it, and they do\r
188 whatever they like, and fuck you we're keeping your money if\r
189 you don't like it.\r
190 Seriously, this should be a legal term. If your company\r
191\r
192\r
193 ** \r
194\r
195 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
196 (by Calydor ( 739835 ))\r
197\r
198 \r
199 Remember when they wanted to make players PAY for mods for\r
200 Skyrim?\r
201\r
202\r
203\r
204 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
205 (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))\r
206\r
207 \r
208 $46 for a suit of armor?\r
209 If I ever had any interest in playing Eve*, this pricing\r
210 would instantly cure me of that notion.\r
211 *Which I don't, but still...\r
212\r
213\r
214 ** Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win (Score:2)\r
215 (by Crashmarik ( 635988 ))\r
216\r
217 \r
218 If that isn't a match made in hell I don't know what is.\r
219\r
220 ** \r
221\r
222 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
223 (by MAXOMENOS ( 9802 ))\r
224\r
225 \r
226 ....if they can only get out of beta......\r
227\r
228 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
229 (by blackomegax ( 807080 ))\r
230\r
231 \r
232 The current beta is 3 moons, 2 stations, and a shitty\r
233 framework of a "game" that runs at 10fps on a GTX1060\r
234 at low settings and looks 5x worse than games like doom\r
235 or E:D.\r
236\r
237\r
238 ** \r
239\r
240 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
241 (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))\r
242\r
243 \r
244 They're not even in Alpha. They call it that, but\r
245 what it actually is, is "perpetual development\r
246 hell". It doesn't have a version number but if it\r
247 had, it would be 666.\r
248\r
249\r
250\r
251\r
252\r
253 ** Why didn't microsoft acquire it? (Score:3)\r
254 (by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ))\r
255\r
256 \r
257 Since its unofficial tagline is, ya know, "spreadsheet online"\r
258\r
259 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
260 (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))\r
261\r
262 \r
263 It's also known as "Spreadsheet Simulator".\r
264\r
265\r
266 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
267 (by meglon ( 1001833 ))\r
268\r
269 \r
270 But...it's a really pretty spreadsheet.\r
271\r
272\r
273 ** \r
274\r
275 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
276 (by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 ))\r
277\r
278 \r
279 Makes me wonder too. I wonder if White Wolf would be sold off\r
280 (likely) or spun off (unlikely, but would be nicer). My fear\r
281 is that it gets tossed to some big company, and the IP\r
282 completely shelved, never to see the light of day again,\r
283 similar to how EA has done with a lot of Origin IP.\r
284\r
285\r
286 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
287 (by jeff4747 ( 256583 ))\r
288\r
289 \r
290 CCP was making a World of Darkness MMO, but canceled the\r
291 project a few years ago. I think they sold the IP.\r
292\r
293\r
294 ** Only half a billion? (Score:2)\r
295 (by beheaderaswp ( 549877 ) *)\r
296\r
297 \r
298 My god... that number is kinda high...\r
299 That aside... this new owner will just accentuate the problem\r
300 areas of Eve that kept it from truly meeting it's potential.\r
301 As it is, it's already a griefing sandbox with little wiggle\r
302 room for anything except PVP and/or massive corporate/alliance\r
303 industry or fleet ops. When it could be far more balanced and\r
304 appeal to a larger player base.\r
305 Pushing it further into "gang warfare" style griefing will\r
306 eventually make the player base smaller.\r
307 I stopped playing in 2016. So I play\r
308\r
309 ** Re: (Score:3)\r
310 (by Luckyo ( 1726890 ))\r
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312 \r
313 Your description of events is the exact opposite of your\r
314 conclusion. It sounds like EVE has in fact achieved\r
315 greatness, because the process you describe functions exactly\r
316 like real world functions on macro level.\r
317 The fact that they apparently managed to recreated the world\r
318 on macro level in a game through long standing player\r
319 interactions in less than two decades is mind blowingly\r
320 amazing.\r
321\r
322 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
323 (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))\r
324\r
325 \r
326 And indeed, a subject of economic studies. Pretty\r
327 brilliant work in that respect. Whether it's successful as\r
328 an enjoyable game is something else entirely.\r
329\r
330 ** Re: (Score:2)\r
331 (by Luckyo ( 1726890 ))\r
332\r
333 \r
334 Not economic. Political. This is literally the core\r
335 tenets of concept of sovereignty. Economy is just a\r
336 part of the picture here.\r
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340\r
341 ** Eve Online New addon will contain loot boxes (Score:2)\r
342 (by Cito ( 1725214 ))\r
343\r
344 \r
345 No more expansion packs but eve online will offer season passes\r
346 at 4 different tier prices; standard, deluxe edition, legacy and\r
347 ultimate edition.\r
348\r
349 ** Also known as (Score:2)\r
350 (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))\r
351\r
352 \r
353 "Eve Online", also affectionately known as "Spreadsheet\r
354 Simulator".\r
355\r
356 ** made me laugh (Score:2)\r
357 (by meglon ( 1001833 ))\r
358\r
359 \r
360 > Eve Online isn't the biggest MMORPG on the market\r
361 In other news: water is wet, and the sky is blue.\r
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363\r