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   'EVE ONLINE' STUDIO ACQUIRED BY KOREAN MMO MAKER (ENGADGET.COM) \r
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  Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (msmash)\r
  from the in-some-business-news dept.\r
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  o News link: https://games.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1921222/eve-online-studio-acquired-by-korean-mmo-maker\r
  o Source link: https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/06/eve-online-pearl-abyss-ccp-games/\r
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    MAXOMENOS  writes:  EVE  Online  developer  CCP  Games has been\r
    acquired  by  Pearl  Abyss,  the South Korean studio behind the\r
    action-oriented   MMORPG  Black  Desert  Online.  According  to\r
    VentureBeat,  the deal was worth $425 million and will close in\r
    early  October. It's a surprise announcement for CCP, which has\r
    long  operated  as  an  independent developer. Eve Online isn't\r
    the  biggest  MMORPG  on  the  market,  but it has maintained a\r
    steady  and  loyal  userbase  through  continuous updates and a\r
    well-timed  switch  to a hybrid premium and free-to-play model.\r
    The  15-year-old  game  is  unique,  too,  with its large-scale\r
    battles   and   notoriously   complex  economic  and  political\r
    systems.\r
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  ** RIP Eve (Score:3)\r
     (by spiritplumber ( 1944222 ))\r
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     Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the userbase's\r
     culture and wreck a good thing.\r
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     ** Re: (Score:3)\r
        (by sinij ( 911942 ))\r
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        If someone could make EVE more grindy, it would be a Korean\r
        MMO maker. I don't see them misunderstanding that aspect, as\r
        they invented Korean Grinder.\r
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     ** Re: (Score:3)\r
        (by duke_cheetah2003 ( 862933 ))\r
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        > Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the\r
        > userbase's culture and wreck a good thing.\r
        CCP already did that years ago.\r
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        ** Re: (Score:1)\r
           (by Anonymous Coward)\r
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           Son, if Koreans will do anything it's inject sexy alien\r
           women and bikini-space-armor into it.\r
           East Asia never suffered the retardation of puritanism,\r
           which is unique to the Western world owing to Abrahamic\r
           doctrine, to develop Gymnophobia and Genophobia, so they\r
           don't care about the Church-Feminist anti-sexualization\r
           offense alliance. The only exception are the "Communist"\r
           governments there.\r
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        ** Re: (Score:2)\r
           (by jeff4747 ( 256583 ))\r
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           It's almost like you don't know there's already Korean and\r
           Chinese alliances in Eve.......and they're not doing all\r
           that well. I'm sure FRT will stop feeding Keepstars soon.\r
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        ** Re: (Score:3)\r
           (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))\r
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           It was bad in the beta and never actually recovered from\r
           some pretty bad development choices. Have they discovered\r
           parallel processing yet? And version management? Okay, I\r
           guess the last one was a bit mean. They must have\r
           discovered Git by now.\r
           But seriously, the game is an unstructured mess. Played it\r
           for a while, flew a Machariel and did incursions, level 4\r
           missions etc. but after a while it got boring. May pick it\r
           up again though.\r
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  ** Not Good News (Score:4, Interesting)\r
     (by Kunedog ( 1033226 ))\r
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     Shamus Young has a series on Black Desert, explaining how\r
     shockingly aggressive, expensive and game-ruining he found the\r
     microtransactions system to be, even if you're familiar with the\r
     worst of the American systems. There's manadatory PvP and\r
     deliberately cramped inventory space but the "cash shop" can\r
     always make things better (i.e. playable).\r
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     I'd be worried if I were an EVE Online fan.\r
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     [1]https://www.shamusyoung.com/tw... [shamusyoung.com]\r
     > I see all the default clothes are bland and I need to pay real\r
     > money for a cool outfit. Aesthetics are important to me. (Which\r
     > is why I spend so much time on sculpting my character.) So I\r
     > really don’t want to spend the rest of my time looking at these\r
     > blando outfits. Sigh. Fine. What’s a pretend suit of armor cost\r
     > these days? Three bucks? Five bucks?\r
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     > FORTY SIX AMERICAN DOLLARS? ARE YOU TRYING TO START A FIGHT?\r
     > The cheap outfits can be had for $22. They also offer ladies\r
     > underwear sets for just $7, if you want to run around in your\r
     > underpants. (I don’t, thanks.)\r
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     > (They also offer similar options for male characters. I was\r
     > tempted to get the outfit that would let my kung-fu guy go\r
     > shirtless, because he’s a kung-fu dude. But all of the choices\r
     > looked like modern-day boxers. You can’t just wear baggy pants\r
     > with no shirt.)\r
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     > Would you like to dye that super-expensive outfit you just\r
     > bought? Or any other outfit? That will set you back another $10.\r
     > And that’s somehow a rental. Your ten bucks gets you a month of\r
     > being allowed to have dyed clothes. After the month is up, your\r
     > clothes revert to their original colors and you gotta fork over\r
     > another $10.\r
     > Do you enjoy wheeling and dealing at the auction house in other\r
     > games, but the egregious 35% tax on all your sales is making it\r
     > impossible for you to have fun or turn a profit? Pay fifteen\r
     > real-world dollars and the tax will go down to the normal 5%.\r
     > (For one month.)\r
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     > Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so\r
     > outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off. It’s\r
     > not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity of the\r
     > seller to ask this much[2] for what should be trivial virtual\r
     > goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still likely to get\r
     > offended if someone tries to sell you a stick of ordinary gum\r
     > for five bucks.\r
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     [1] https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=42507\r
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     ** Re: (Score:3, Interesting)\r
        (by Anonymous Coward)\r
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        > Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so\r
        > outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off.\r
        > It’s not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity\r
        > of the seller to ask this much for what should be trivial\r
        > virtual goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still\r
        > likely to get offended if someone tries to sell you a stick\r
        > of ordinary gum for five bucks.\r
        Sometimes, I thought Stallman was being a pendant for gripes\r
        about terminology like "intellectual property".\r
        Now I realize he was exactly right.\r
        This guy uses the words "virtual goods", like it's something\r
        he'll actually own. Dollars to donuts, the EULA and TOS says\r
        these 'virtual goods' are nothing more than bits on their\r
        server, you don't own a single bit of it, and they do\r
        whatever they like, and fuck you we're keeping your money if\r
        you don't like it.\r
        Seriously, this should be a legal term. If your company\r
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        ** Re: (Score:2)\r
           (by Calydor ( 739835 ))\r
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           Remember when they wanted to make players PAY for mods for\r
           Skyrim?\r
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     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))\r
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        $46 for a suit of armor?\r
        If I ever had any interest in playing Eve*, this pricing\r
        would instantly cure me of that notion.\r
        *Which I don't, but still...\r
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  ** Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win (Score:2)\r
     (by Crashmarik ( 635988 ))\r
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     If that isn't a match made in hell I don't know what is.\r
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        ** Re: (Score:2)\r
           (by MAXOMENOS ( 9802 ))\r
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           ....if they can only get out of beta......\r
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           ** Re: (Score:2)\r
              (by blackomegax ( 807080 ))\r
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              The current beta is 3 moons, 2 stations, and a shitty\r
              framework of a "game" that runs at 10fps on a GTX1060\r
              at low settings and looks 5x worse than games like doom\r
              or E:D.\r
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              ** Re: (Score:2)\r
                 (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))\r
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                 They're not even in Alpha. They call it that, but\r
                 what it actually is, is "perpetual development\r
                 hell". It doesn't have a version number but if it\r
                 had, it would be 666.\r
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  ** Why didn't microsoft acquire it? (Score:3)\r
     (by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ))\r
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     Since its unofficial tagline is, ya know, "spreadsheet online"\r
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     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))\r
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        It's also known as "Spreadsheet Simulator".\r
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     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by meglon ( 1001833 ))\r
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        But...it's a really pretty spreadsheet.\r
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     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 ))\r
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        Makes me wonder too. I wonder if White Wolf would be sold off\r
        (likely) or spun off (unlikely, but would be nicer). My fear\r
        is that it gets tossed to some big company, and the IP\r
        completely shelved, never to see the light of day again,\r
        similar to how EA has done with a lot of Origin IP.\r
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     ** Re: (Score:2)\r
        (by jeff4747 ( 256583 ))\r
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        CCP was making a World of Darkness MMO, but canceled the\r
        project a few years ago. I think they sold the IP.\r
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  ** Only half a billion? (Score:2)\r
     (by beheaderaswp ( 549877 ) *)\r
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     My god... that number is kinda high...\r
     That aside... this new owner will just accentuate the problem\r
     areas of Eve that kept it from truly meeting it's potential.\r
     As it is, it's already a griefing sandbox with little wiggle\r
     room for anything except PVP and/or massive corporate/alliance\r
     industry or fleet ops. When it could be far more balanced and\r
     appeal to a larger player base.\r
     Pushing it further into "gang warfare" style griefing will\r
     eventually make the player base smaller.\r
     I stopped playing in 2016. So I play\r
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     ** Re: (Score:3)\r
        (by Luckyo ( 1726890 ))\r
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        Your description of events is the exact opposite of your\r
        conclusion. It sounds like EVE has in fact achieved\r
        greatness, because the process you describe functions exactly\r
        like real world functions on macro level.\r
        The fact that they apparently managed to recreated the world\r
        on macro level in a game through long standing player\r
        interactions in less than two decades is mind blowingly\r
        amazing.\r
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        ** Re: (Score:2)\r
           (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))\r
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           And indeed, a subject of economic studies. Pretty\r
           brilliant work in that respect. Whether it's successful as\r
           an enjoyable game is something else entirely.\r
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           ** Re: (Score:2)\r
              (by Luckyo ( 1726890 ))\r
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              Not economic. Political. This is literally the core\r
              tenets of concept of sovereignty. Economy is just a\r
              part of the picture here.\r
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  ** Eve Online New addon will contain loot boxes (Score:2)\r
     (by Cito ( 1725214 ))\r
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     No more expansion packs but eve online will offer season passes\r
     at 4 different tier prices; standard, deluxe edition, legacy and\r
     ultimate edition.\r
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  ** Also known as (Score:2)\r
     (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))\r
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     "Eve Online", also affectionately known as "Spreadsheet\r
     Simulator".\r
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  ** made me laugh (Score:2)\r
     (by meglon ( 1001833 ))\r
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     > Eve Online isn't the biggest MMORPG on the market\r
     In other news: water is wet, and the sky is blue.\r
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