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+ GOOGLE INVESTIGATING ISSUE WITH BLURRY FONTS ON NEW CHROME 69 \r
+ (ZDNET.COM) \r
+\r
+ Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (msmash)\r
+ from the blurry-texts dept.\r
+\r
+ o News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1839242/google-investigating-issue-with-blurry-fonts-on-new-chrome-69\r
+ o Source link: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-investigating-issue-with-blurry-fonts-on-new-chrome-69/\r
+\r
+\r
+ Since the release of Chrome 69 earlier this week, countless of\r
+ users have gone on social media and Google Product Forums to\r
+ complain about "blurry" or "fuzzy" text inside Chrome. ZDNet:\r
+ The blurred font issue isn't only limited to text rendered\r
+ inside a web page, users said, but also for the text\r
+ suggestions displayed inside the address bar search drop-down,\r
+ and Chrome's Developer Tools panel. [...] According to\r
+ reports, the issue only manifests for Chrome 69 users on\r
+ Windows. Those who rolled back to Chrome 68 stopped having\r
+ problems. Users said that changing Chrome, operating system,\r
+ or screen DPI settings didn't help. "Our team is investigating\r
+ reports of this behavior. You can find more information in\r
+ this public bug report," a Google spokesperson said last night\r
+ after first user complaints started surfacing online. Some\r
+ users have also expressed concerns over Chrome not showing\r
+ "trivial subdomains" including www and secure lock sign in the\r
+ address bar.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Whats the deal (Score:2)\r
+ (by 110010001000 ( 697113 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Whats the deal with the new interface. Looks like we are back to\r
+ rounded corners again.\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:1)\r
+ (by 110010001000 ( 697113 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ And what's the deal with decaf coffee? How do they get the\r
+ caffeine out of there, and then where does it go?\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:1)\r
+ (by Anonymous Coward)\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Why do they put caffeine in coffee and then take it\r
+ back out?\r
+ And why if Chrome rendering fonts in the first place?\r
+ That's a job for the operating system.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: Whats the deal (Score:2)\r
+ (by spongman ( 182339 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ dichloromethe (or ethyl acetate) leeching.\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Score: 5, That's gold Jerry, GOLD!\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** So Chrome 69 makes you blind? (Score:4, Funny)\r
+ (by the_skywise ( 189793 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ The jokes write themselves...\r
+\r
+ ** Blurry Fonts... (Score:2)\r
+ (by Oswald McWeany ( 2428506 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Maybe they need to put on their Google Glass so they can read\r
+ the fonts clearer.\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:3)\r
+ (by Z00L00K ( 682162 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ They just started to use Cleartype and the fuzzy fonts.\r
+ Both cleartype and fuzzy fonts gives me a headache so I have\r
+ to use uBlock to revert to the browser default when I run\r
+ Firefox.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** I bet you (Score:5, Insightful)\r
+ (by The MAZZTer ( 911996 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ If these are Windows users they screwed with the Compatibility\r
+ Mode options for DPI in order to make the window smaller or\r
+ bigger. It looked fine until Google did something differently\r
+ and now the Compatibility Mode options make it look blurry.\r
+ Turns out using options designed for use on legacy applications\r
+ only on modern applications introduces problems. Lots of Steam\r
+ users have similar problems.\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Wrong. I use the standard DPI settings for the whole screen\r
+ (1.5x on my 27" 4K screen), which only works with programs\r
+ that are DPI-aware. It's true that I didn't notice the blurry\r
+ fonts until I saw the headline, but I really just thought I\r
+ was that tired (I've only had 69 for about a day). At least\r
+ for me, it's fairly mild.\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ If it looks significantly worse, it could also have\r
+ nothing at all to do with the bug - Chrome is DPI aware\r
+ and should never have that enabled. Especially since\r
+ the bug report doesn't have any mention of anything but\r
+ the system DPI setting.\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ So you like the way I word it (No Giggity).\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:3)\r
+ (by Solandri ( 704621 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ The problem is there are three ways to tweak the DPI.\r
+ Compatibility Mode, which can be set on a per-app basis.\r
+ Display scaling, which is set via the Windows desktop and\r
+ affects everything. And Advanced Scaling which Microsoft\r
+ introduced with the Spring Creators Update, which I haven't\r
+ figured out exactly how it's different from the regular\r
+ Display Scaling.\r
+ \r
+ Under the hood, there's also ClearType which runs on top of\r
+ DPI scaling, and does [1]subpixel rendering [grc.com] (using\r
+ the individual red, green, and blue subp\r
+ \r
+ \r
+ \r
+ \r
+ [1] https://www.grc.com/ctwhat.htm\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Looking at some zoomed in screenshots, I think they're\r
+ scaling the subpixel rendering itself (which should never\r
+ happen). There is no reason to have red or blue tint on\r
+ anything but the outermost pixel, but looking at my\r
+ screenshot close up I'm seeing two side-by-side bluish or\r
+ reddish pixels.\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by Scoth ( 879800 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Even on Chrome 69 on my multi-DPI work setup I have to turn\r
+ on the DPI scaling compatibility mode/override to not get\r
+ huge dialog boxes and widgets. It's a bit frustrating to me\r
+ that a currently supported, modern app would still have\r
+ problems with that.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by Ingenium13 ( 162116 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Nope, I have a Windows VM that's essentially stock that I use\r
+ for a couple applications. I had Chrome open in it earlier\r
+ today, and noticed that the fonts were blurry and were giving\r
+ me a headache after a few minutes of use. I thought maybe it\r
+ was something with RDP messing it up, but after I read this,\r
+ I logged in again and verified that the fuzzy fonts are only\r
+ in Chrome. All other applications are fine.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by greenwow ( 3635575 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ And most Windows apps. For most of our users on Windows 10,\r
+ Windows apps have blurry text no matter what settings we try.\r
+ That really sucks for developers that need to read a lot of\r
+ text.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: I bet you (Score:2)\r
+ (by spongman ( 182339 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ They don't?\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Not new (Score:2)\r
+ (by Tailhook ( 98486 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Chrome has been having this problem for certain desktop users\r
+ for a while now. There are workaround flags and whatnot. Just\r
+ another chronic quality problem in Chrome that never gets\r
+ fixed....\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:1)\r
+ (by MidSpeck ( 1516577 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ True. I had to disable "Accelerated 2D canvas" in order to\r
+ get the fuzziness to go away on mine on Chrome 68, which was\r
+ working just fine before that.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by Z34107 ( 925136 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Text wrapping is a "solved" problem, too, but you're still\r
+ doing it by hand for some reason.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** While they're at it (Score:2)\r
+ (by Pedestrianwolf ( 1591767 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ ..maybe they could also roll back all rounded rectangles they\r
+ added in v69. Everything is so round it feels like I designed it\r
+ in my basement.\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:3)\r
+ (by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Chrome has a major UI re-design? Firefox is going to be\r
+ pulling some late nights to catch up!\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** It's also has performance regressions (Score:2)\r
+ (by Suren Enfiajyan ( 4600031 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ On my Lenovo G570 the latest chrome also has very high CPU usage\r
+ on [1]slither.io game [slither.io] and the game turns into a\r
+ slideshow in places with many snakes. Firefox 61 doesn't suffer\r
+ from the this problem, despite the fact that its slower almost\r
+ in any regard. But not this time.\r
+ \r
+ \r
+ \r
+ \r
+ [1] http://slither.io/\r
+\r
+ ** BSOD (Score:2)\r
+ (by jimbrooking ( 1909170 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ After installing ALL pages I visit are pure black. No text or\r
+ graphics.\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by jimbrooking ( 1909170 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Fix (Win 7 Home): Uninstall Chrome, delete all browsing date.\r
+ reinstall Chrome, be dazzled by the curviness.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Can someone summarize the linked article? (Score:4, Funny)\r
+ (by kaizendojo ( 956951 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ I upgraded and I can't read it.\r
+\r
+ ** See Jeff Probst ... (Score:2)\r
+ (by CaptainDork ( 3678879 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ ... about this.\r
+ I remember on Survivor®, back in the day, they had a "blurry\r
+ tit," problem.\r
+ They fixed that by disallowing exposed tits.\r
+ Google should remove the tits from their fonts.\r
+\r
+ ** trivial subdomain hiding (Score:2)\r
+ (by Zaiff Urgulbunger ( 591514 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ So this "trivial subdomain hiding" thing... it's a crap idea\r
+ right?\r
+\r
+ ** Here's my take as a Mac user (Score:2)\r
+ (by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ First of all, I really hate these thin fonts. They may look neat\r
+ on hi-DPI displays but not everyone has one.\r
+ Secondly, the text on the left screen capture looks like it had\r
+ its pixels hammered to the nearest pixel, which is the typical\r
+ crappy-looking Microsoft anti-aliasing while the text on the\r
+ right looks like normal anti-aliased text to me.\r
+\r
+\r