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    GOOGLE INVESTIGATING ISSUE WITH BLURRY FONTS ON NEW CHROME 69  
                             (ZDNET.COM)                           

  Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (msmash)
  from the blurry-texts dept.

  o Reference: 0102638976
  o News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1839242/google-investigating-issue-with-blurry-fonts-on-new-chrome-69
  o Source link: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-investigating-issue-with-blurry-fonts-on-new-chrome-69/


    Since   the  [1]release  of  Chrome  69  earlier  this  week  ,
    countless  of  users  have  gone  on  social  media  and Google
    Product  Forums  to  [2]complain about "blurry" or "fuzzy" text
    inside Chrome . ZDNet:
    
    >  The  blurred  font issue isn't only limited to text rendered
    inside   a  web  page,  users  said,  but  also  for  the  text
    suggestions  displayed inside the address bar search drop-down,
    and   Chrome's   Developer  Tools  panel.  [...]  According  to
    reports,  the  issue  only  manifests  for  Chrome  69 users on
    Windows.  Those  who  rolled  back  to Chrome 68 stopped having
    problems.  Users  said  that changing Chrome, operating system,
    or  screen DPI settings didn't help. "Our team is investigating
    reports  of  this  behavior.  You  can find more information in
    this  public bug report," a Google spokesperson said last night
    after first user complaints started surfacing online.
    
    Some  users  have  also  expressed  concerns  over  Chrome  not
    showing  [3]"trivial  subdomains" including www and secure lock
    sign in the address bar.
    
    
    
    [1] https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/09/04/1711250/chrome-69-
    arrives-with-revamped-design-more-powerful-omnibox-and-better-
    password-manager
    
    [2] https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-investigating-issue-w-
    ith-blurry-fonts-on-new-chrome-69/
    
    [3] https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=8814-
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  ** Whats the deal (Score:2)
     (by 110010001000 ( 697113 ))

     
     Whats the deal with the new interface. Looks like we are back to
     rounded corners again.

     ** 

        ** Re: (Score:1)
           (by 110010001000 ( 697113 ))

           
           And what's the deal with decaf coffee? How do they get the
           caffeine out of there, and then where does it go?

           ** Re: (Score:1)
              (by Anonymous Coward)

              
              Why do they put caffeine in coffee and then take it
              back out?
              And why if Chrome rendering fonts in the first place?
              That's a job for the operating system.


           ** Re: Whats the deal (Score:2)
              (by spongman ( 182339 ))

              
              dichloromethe (or ethyl acetate) leeching.



        ** Re: (Score:2)
           (by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ))

           
           Score: 5, That's gold Jerry, GOLD!



  ** So Chrome 69 makes you blind? (Score:4, Funny)
     (by the_skywise ( 189793 ))

     
     The jokes write themselves...

  ** Blurry Fonts... (Score:2)
     (by Oswald McWeany ( 2428506 ))

     
     Maybe they need to put on their Google Glass so they can read
     the fonts clearer.

     ** Re: (Score:3)
        (by Z00L00K ( 682162 ))

        
        They just started to use Cleartype and the fuzzy fonts.
        Both cleartype and fuzzy fonts gives me a headache so I have
        to use uBlock to revert to the browser default when I run
        Firefox.


  ** I bet you (Score:5, Insightful)
     (by The MAZZTer ( 911996 ))

     
     If these are Windows users they screwed with the Compatibility
     Mode options for DPI in order to make the window smaller or
     bigger. It looked fine until Google did something differently
     and now the Compatibility Mode options make it look blurry.
     Turns out using options designed for use on legacy applications
     only on modern applications introduces problems. Lots of Steam
     users have similar problems.

     ** Re: (Score:2)
        (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))

        
        Wrong. I use the standard DPI settings for the whole screen
        (1.5x on my 27" 4K screen), which only works with programs
        that are DPI-aware. It's true that I didn't notice the blurry
        fonts until I saw the headline, but I really just thought I
        was that tired (I've only had 69 for about a day). At least
        for me, it's fairly mild.

        ** 

           ** Re: (Score:2)
              (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))

              
              If it looks significantly worse, it could also have
              nothing at all to do with the bug - Chrome is DPI aware
              and should never have that enabled. Especially since
              the bug report doesn't have any mention of anything but
              the system DPI setting.



        ** 

           ** Re: (Score:2)
              (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))

              
              So you like the way I word it (No Giggity).




     ** Re: (Score:3)
        (by Solandri ( 704621 ))

        
        The problem is there are three ways to tweak the DPI.
        Compatibility Mode, which can be set on a per-app basis.
        Display scaling, which is set via the Windows desktop and
        affects everything. And Advanced Scaling which Microsoft
        introduced with the Spring Creators Update, which I haven't
        figured out exactly how it's different from the regular
        Display Scaling.
        
        Under the hood, there's also ClearType which runs on top of
        DPI scaling, and does [1]subpixel rendering  [grc.com] (using
        the individual red, green, and blue subp
        
        
        
        
        [1] https://www.grc.com/ctwhat.htm

        ** Re: (Score:2)
           (by omnichad ( 1198475 ))

           
           Looking at some zoomed in screenshots, I think they're
           scaling the subpixel rendering itself (which should never
           happen). There is no reason to have red or blue tint on
           anything but the outermost pixel, but looking at my
           screenshot close up I'm seeing two side-by-side bluish or
           reddish pixels.



     ** Re: (Score:2)
        (by Scoth ( 879800 ))

        
        Even on Chrome 69 on my multi-DPI work setup I have to turn
        on the DPI scaling compatibility mode/override to not get
        huge dialog boxes and widgets. It's a bit frustrating to me
        that a currently supported, modern app would still have
        problems with that.


     ** Re: (Score:2)
        (by Ingenium13 ( 162116 ))

        
        Nope, I have a Windows VM that's essentially stock that I use
        for a couple applications. I had Chrome open in it earlier
        today, and noticed that the fonts were blurry and were giving
        me a headache after a few minutes of use. I thought maybe it
        was something with RDP messing it up, but after I read this,
        I logged in again and verified that the fuzzy fonts are only
        in Chrome. All other applications are fine.


     ** Re: (Score:2)
        (by greenwow ( 3635575 ))

        
        And most Windows apps. For most of our users on Windows 10,
        Windows apps have blurry text no matter what settings we try.
        That really sucks for developers that need to read a lot of
        text.


     ** 

        ** Re: I bet you (Score:2)
           (by spongman ( 182339 ))

           
           They don't?



  ** Not new (Score:2)
     (by Tailhook ( 98486 ))

     
     Chrome has been having this problem for certain desktop users
     for a while now. There are workaround flags and whatnot. Just
     another chronic quality problem in Chrome that never gets
     fixed....

     ** Re: (Score:1)
        (by MidSpeck ( 1516577 ))

        
        True. I had to disable "Accelerated 2D canvas" in order to
        get the fuzziness to go away on mine on Chrome 68, which was
        working just fine before that.


  ** 

     ** Re: (Score:2)
        (by Z34107 ( 925136 ))

        
        Text wrapping is a "solved" problem, too, but you're still
        doing it by hand for some reason.


  ** While they're at it (Score:2)
     (by Pedestrianwolf ( 1591767 ))

     
     ..maybe they could also roll back all rounded rectangles they
     added in v69. Everything is so round it feels like I designed it
     in my basement.

     ** Re: (Score:3)
        (by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ))

        
        Chrome has a major UI re-design? Firefox is going to be
        pulling some late nights to catch up!


  ** It's also has performance regressions (Score:2)
     (by Suren Enfiajyan ( 4600031 ))

     
     On my Lenovo G570 the latest chrome also has very high CPU usage
     on [1]slither.io game [slither.io] and the game turns into a
     slideshow in places with many snakes. Firefox 61 doesn't suffer
     from the this problem, despite the fact that its slower almost
     in any regard. But not this time.
     
     
     
     
     [1] http://slither.io/

  ** BSOD (Score:2)
     (by jimbrooking ( 1909170 ))

     
     After installing ALL pages I visit are pure black. No text or
     graphics.

     ** Re: (Score:2)
        (by jimbrooking ( 1909170 ))

        
        Fix (Win 7 Home): Uninstall Chrome, delete all browsing date.
        reinstall Chrome, be dazzled by the curviness.


  ** Can someone summarize the linked article? (Score:4, Funny)
     (by kaizendojo ( 956951 ))

     
     I upgraded and I can't read it.

  ** See Jeff Probst ... (Score:2)
     (by CaptainDork ( 3678879 ))

     
     ... about this.
     I remember on Survivor®, back in the day, they had a "blurry
     tit," problem.
     They fixed that by disallowing exposed tits.
     Google should remove the tits from their fonts.

  ** trivial subdomain hiding (Score:2)
     (by Zaiff Urgulbunger ( 591514 ))

     
     So this "trivial subdomain hiding" thing... it's a crap idea
     right?

  ** Here's my take as a Mac user (Score:2)
     (by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ))

     
     First of all, I really hate these thin fonts. They may look neat
     on hi-DPI displays but not everyone has one.
     Secondly, the text on the left screen capture looks like it had
     its pixels hammered to the nearest pixel, which is the typical
     crappy-looking Microsoft anti-aliasing while the text on the
     right looks like normal anti-aliased text to me.