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+ 'EVE ONLINE' STUDIO ACQUIRED BY KOREAN MMO MAKER (ENGADGET.COM) \r
+\r
+ Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (msmash)\r
+ from the in-some-business-news dept.\r
+\r
+ o News link: https://games.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1921222/eve-online-studio-acquired-by-korean-mmo-maker\r
+ o Source link: https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/06/eve-online-pearl-abyss-ccp-games/\r
+\r
+\r
+ MAXOMENOS writes: EVE Online developer CCP Games has been\r
+ acquired by Pearl Abyss, the South Korean studio behind the\r
+ action-oriented MMORPG Black Desert Online. According to\r
+ VentureBeat, the deal was worth $425 million and will close in\r
+ early October. It's a surprise announcement for CCP, which has\r
+ long operated as an independent developer. Eve Online isn't\r
+ the biggest MMORPG on the market, but it has maintained a\r
+ steady and loyal userbase through continuous updates and a\r
+ well-timed switch to a hybrid premium and free-to-play model.\r
+ The 15-year-old game is unique, too, with its large-scale\r
+ battles and notoriously complex economic and political\r
+ systems.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** RIP Eve (Score:3)\r
+ (by spiritplumber ( 1944222 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the userbase's\r
+ culture and wreck a good thing.\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:3)\r
+ (by sinij ( 911942 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ If someone could make EVE more grindy, it would be a Korean\r
+ MMO maker. I don't see them misunderstanding that aspect, as\r
+ they invented Korean Grinder.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:3)\r
+ (by duke_cheetah2003 ( 862933 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ > Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the\r
+ > userbase's culture and wreck a good thing.\r
+ CCP already did that years ago.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:1)\r
+ (by Anonymous Coward)\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Son, if Koreans will do anything it's inject sexy alien\r
+ women and bikini-space-armor into it.\r
+ East Asia never suffered the retardation of puritanism,\r
+ which is unique to the Western world owing to Abrahamic\r
+ doctrine, to develop Gymnophobia and Genophobia, so they\r
+ don't care about the Church-Feminist anti-sexualization\r
+ offense alliance. The only exception are the "Communist"\r
+ governments there.\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by jeff4747 ( 256583 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ It's almost like you don't know there's already Korean and\r
+ Chinese alliances in Eve.......and they're not doing all\r
+ that well. I'm sure FRT will stop feeding Keepstars soon.\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:3)\r
+ (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ It was bad in the beta and never actually recovered from\r
+ some pretty bad development choices. Have they discovered\r
+ parallel processing yet? And version management? Okay, I\r
+ guess the last one was a bit mean. They must have\r
+ discovered Git by now.\r
+ But seriously, the game is an unstructured mess. Played it\r
+ for a while, flew a Machariel and did incursions, level 4\r
+ missions etc. but after a while it got boring. May pick it\r
+ up again though.\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Not Good News (Score:4, Interesting)\r
+ (by Kunedog ( 1033226 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Shamus Young has a series on Black Desert, explaining how\r
+ shockingly aggressive, expensive and game-ruining he found the\r
+ microtransactions system to be, even if you're familiar with the\r
+ worst of the American systems. There's manadatory PvP and\r
+ deliberately cramped inventory space but the "cash shop" can\r
+ always make things better (i.e. playable).\r
+ \r
+ I'd be worried if I were an EVE Online fan.\r
+ \r
+ [1]https://www.shamusyoung.com/tw... [shamusyoung.com]\r
+ > I see all the default clothes are bland and I need to pay real\r
+ > money for a cool outfit. Aesthetics are important to me. (Which\r
+ > is why I spend so much time on sculpting my character.) So I\r
+ > really don’t want to spend the rest of my time looking at these\r
+ > blando outfits. Sigh. Fine. What’s a pretend suit of armor cost\r
+ > these days? Three bucks? Five bucks?\r
+ > \r
+ > FORTY SIX AMERICAN DOLLARS? ARE YOU TRYING TO START A FIGHT?\r
+ > The cheap outfits can be had for $22. They also offer ladies\r
+ > underwear sets for just $7, if you want to run around in your\r
+ > underpants. (I don’t, thanks.)\r
+ > \r
+ > (They also offer similar options for male characters. I was\r
+ > tempted to get the outfit that would let my kung-fu guy go\r
+ > shirtless, because he’s a kung-fu dude. But all of the choices\r
+ > looked like modern-day boxers. You can’t just wear baggy pants\r
+ > with no shirt.)\r
+ > \r
+ > Would you like to dye that super-expensive outfit you just\r
+ > bought? Or any other outfit? That will set you back another $10.\r
+ > And that’s somehow a rental. Your ten bucks gets you a month of\r
+ > being allowed to have dyed clothes. After the month is up, your\r
+ > clothes revert to their original colors and you gotta fork over\r
+ > another $10.\r
+ > Do you enjoy wheeling and dealing at the auction house in other\r
+ > games, but the egregious 35% tax on all your sales is making it\r
+ > impossible for you to have fun or turn a profit? Pay fifteen\r
+ > real-world dollars and the tax will go down to the normal 5%.\r
+ > (For one month.)\r
+ > \r
+ > Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so\r
+ > outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off. It’s\r
+ > not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity of the\r
+ > seller to ask this much[2] for what should be trivial virtual\r
+ > goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still likely to get\r
+ > offended if someone tries to sell you a stick of ordinary gum\r
+ > for five bucks.\r
+ \r
+ \r
+ \r
+ \r
+ [1] https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=42507\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:3, Interesting)\r
+ (by Anonymous Coward)\r
+\r
+ \r
+ > Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so\r
+ > outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off.\r
+ > It’s not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity\r
+ > of the seller to ask this much for what should be trivial\r
+ > virtual goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still\r
+ > likely to get offended if someone tries to sell you a stick\r
+ > of ordinary gum for five bucks.\r
+ Sometimes, I thought Stallman was being a pendant for gripes\r
+ about terminology like "intellectual property".\r
+ Now I realize he was exactly right.\r
+ This guy uses the words "virtual goods", like it's something\r
+ he'll actually own. Dollars to donuts, the EULA and TOS says\r
+ these 'virtual goods' are nothing more than bits on their\r
+ server, you don't own a single bit of it, and they do\r
+ whatever they like, and fuck you we're keeping your money if\r
+ you don't like it.\r
+ Seriously, this should be a legal term. If your company\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by Calydor ( 739835 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Remember when they wanted to make players PAY for mods for\r
+ Skyrim?\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ $46 for a suit of armor?\r
+ If I ever had any interest in playing Eve*, this pricing\r
+ would instantly cure me of that notion.\r
+ *Which I don't, but still...\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win (Score:2)\r
+ (by Crashmarik ( 635988 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ If that isn't a match made in hell I don't know what is.\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by MAXOMENOS ( 9802 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ ....if they can only get out of beta......\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by blackomegax ( 807080 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ The current beta is 3 moons, 2 stations, and a shitty\r
+ framework of a "game" that runs at 10fps on a GTX1060\r
+ at low settings and looks 5x worse than games like doom\r
+ or E:D.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ They're not even in Alpha. They call it that, but\r
+ what it actually is, is "perpetual development\r
+ hell". It doesn't have a version number but if it\r
+ had, it would be 666.\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Why didn't microsoft acquire it? (Score:3)\r
+ (by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Since its unofficial tagline is, ya know, "spreadsheet online"\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ It's also known as "Spreadsheet Simulator".\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by meglon ( 1001833 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ But...it's a really pretty spreadsheet.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** \r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Makes me wonder too. I wonder if White Wolf would be sold off\r
+ (likely) or spun off (unlikely, but would be nicer). My fear\r
+ is that it gets tossed to some big company, and the IP\r
+ completely shelved, never to see the light of day again,\r
+ similar to how EA has done with a lot of Origin IP.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by jeff4747 ( 256583 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ CCP was making a World of Darkness MMO, but canceled the\r
+ project a few years ago. I think they sold the IP.\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Only half a billion? (Score:2)\r
+ (by beheaderaswp ( 549877 ) *)\r
+\r
+ \r
+ My god... that number is kinda high...\r
+ That aside... this new owner will just accentuate the problem\r
+ areas of Eve that kept it from truly meeting it's potential.\r
+ As it is, it's already a griefing sandbox with little wiggle\r
+ room for anything except PVP and/or massive corporate/alliance\r
+ industry or fleet ops. When it could be far more balanced and\r
+ appeal to a larger player base.\r
+ Pushing it further into "gang warfare" style griefing will\r
+ eventually make the player base smaller.\r
+ I stopped playing in 2016. So I play\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:3)\r
+ (by Luckyo ( 1726890 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Your description of events is the exact opposite of your\r
+ conclusion. It sounds like EVE has in fact achieved\r
+ greatness, because the process you describe functions exactly\r
+ like real world functions on macro level.\r
+ The fact that they apparently managed to recreated the world\r
+ on macro level in a game through long standing player\r
+ interactions in less than two decades is mind blowingly\r
+ amazing.\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ And indeed, a subject of economic studies. Pretty\r
+ brilliant work in that respect. Whether it's successful as\r
+ an enjoyable game is something else entirely.\r
+\r
+ ** Re: (Score:2)\r
+ (by Luckyo ( 1726890 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ Not economic. Political. This is literally the core\r
+ tenets of concept of sovereignty. Economy is just a\r
+ part of the picture here.\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+ ** Eve Online New addon will contain loot boxes (Score:2)\r
+ (by Cito ( 1725214 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ No more expansion packs but eve online will offer season passes\r
+ at 4 different tier prices; standard, deluxe edition, legacy and\r
+ ultimate edition.\r
+\r
+ ** Also known as (Score:2)\r
+ (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ "Eve Online", also affectionately known as "Spreadsheet\r
+ Simulator".\r
+\r
+ ** made me laugh (Score:2)\r
+ (by meglon ( 1001833 ))\r
+\r
+ \r
+ > Eve Online isn't the biggest MMORPG on the market\r
+ In other news: water is wet, and the sky is blue.\r
+\r
+\r
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