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+</p><p> However:<br>
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+expand
+ikspand/<br>
+verb<br>
+verb: expand; 3rd person present: expands; past tense: expanded; past participle: expanded; gerund or present participle: expanding<br>
+* become or make larger or more extensive<br>
+* <b>give a fuller version or account of.</b></p></div>
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+</p><p> However: expand - verb<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>
+ (1) become or make larger or more extensive<br>
+ (2) <b>give a fuller version or account of.</b>
+</p></div><p>
+Yup, I know; I was married to an English teacher for 20 years, but using the first definition was funnier.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)
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+ <div id="comment_body_57266322"><p>The only reason is automation. Jobs were never going to come back from chip manufacturing.</p><p>They have a factory crew for setting up the parts and feeding the machines. Pretty cheap, doesn't actually make much money for anyone but the corporation running it. It's all "unskilled" and low pay...setting up all those machines, getting material dimensions in spec and running the machine is just considered general labor.</p></div>
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+ <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~YuppieScum">YuppieScum</a> <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~YuppieScum">( 1096 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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+ <div id="comment_body_57266406"><p><div class="quote"><p>If the US leads in chip manufacture, why can't it be competitive in putting the pieces together?</p></div><p>
+Because most of the CPU silicon used in the commonest devices - phones and laptops - is fabbed in Asia.<br> <br>
+Because most of the parts - like screens, RAM and flash storage - are also made in Asia, so it's cheaper to bolt it all together in a location closest to the source of the most parts.<br> <br>
+Because final assembly of something like an iPhone is a manual process that requires the dexterity of nimble fingers. It's not quite the same as bolting doors onto a Chevvy.</p></div>
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+ <div id="comment_body_57266438">Re "why can't it be competitive in putting the pieces together?"<br>
+Think back to the 1970 and 1980's when the CPU thing needed new production lines and was no longer low yield skilled lab work.<br>
+Non first world nations part pay their workers in food, dormitories. Their introduction to work is free as its part of the nations free "education".<br>
+Tax reductions and industrial export support then further supports the electronics brand in the poor nation.<br>
+No unions. Lots of pollution. <br> <br>
+The big brands moved to ver</div>
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+ <div id="comment_body_57266082">Sure they still do, but China is beginning to manufacture X86 CPUs directly. It's only a matter of time until they catch up and crush Intel and AMD through undercutting, and throwing money at the problem.
+<a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-zen-x86-processor-dryhana,37417.html" title="tomshardware.com">https://www.tomshardware.com/n...</a> [tomshardware.com]</div>
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+ <div id="comment_body_57267142"><p>But who will people trust to make their CPU's. Intel with their "management engine" and AMD etc all with the same is already freaking enough people out.</p><p>Who is going to want a Chinese CPU with who knows what running on it that you will never be able to see, has access to everything, and can do anything it wants to "your computer" and "your data".<br>
+Most countries would probably just ban them like they are <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/technology/huawei-banned-australia-5g.html" title="nytimes.com">doing for 5G telecom equipment already.<span class="substr"> </span></a> [nytimes.com] </p></div>
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+ <div id="comment_body_57266092"><p>. . . computer chips with <strong>state-of-the-art lithography</strong> soon all will be manufactured overseas. Specifically, they will be made by exactly two companies, <a href="https://www.samsungfoundry.com/foundry/homepage.do" title="samsungfoundry.com">Samsung</a> [samsungfoundry.com] and <a href="http://www.tsmc.com/english/default.htm" title="tsmc.com">TSMC</a> [tsmc.com], with GlobalFoundries' recent announcement that it is <a href="https://www.anandtech.com/show/13277/globalfoundries-stops-all-7nm-development" title="anandtech.com">stopping development of its 7nm process</a> [anandtech.com]. GF operated the old IBM facility in Fishkill, NY, and AFAIK was the last company offering state-of-the-art foundry services with a fab in the US.</p><p>Intel is still in business, of course, and even has a <a href="https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/foundry/overview.html" title="intel.com">foundry business</a> [intel.com], but it cannot seem to successfully operate it -- substantially all of its wafer starts are chips of its own design. With the capital cost of each new-generation fab reaching $20 billion, it's only a matter of time until Intel -- which has only its internal product base of chip designs to fill its fabs, while Samsung and TSMC make chips for the entire industry -- can no longer afford the move to the next generation.</p><p>If the rest of the semiconductor industry (or the US DoD) wants high-performance computer chips, there's now nowhere to go except Samsung and TSMC. It will be interesting to see what politicians do when they realize that the best digital chips can no longer be manufactured in the US. The choice seems to be either (1) have our economy -- everything from cell phones to missiles -- dependent on chips manufactured overseas, or (2) subsidize Intel's foundry business and the semiconductor equipment manufacturers to the tune of tens of $billions, just to keep a US source of high-performance semiconductors.</p></div>
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+ on Thursday September 06, 2018 @05:52PM (<span class="ind"></span><a href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&cid=57266206">#57266206</a>)
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+ <div id="comment_body_57266206"><p><i>"An even greater share of the world's computer chips are designed domestically and made overseas by companies including Qualcomm, Apple, Broadcom and Nvidia."</i></p><p>This reads as though Qualcomm, Apple, Broadcom and Nvidia are making chips. What would be clear and accurate is:</p><p>"An even greater share of the world's computer chips are designed domestically by companies including Qualcomm, Apple, Broadcom and Nvidia and made overseas."</p></div>
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+ <div id="comment_body_57266338">Don't forget, a hefty chunk of Qualcomm's - and pretty much all of Apple's - designs are not original, but instead are based on IP from ARM, a British company (although recently bought out by SoftBank).<br> <br>In fact, Broadcom and Nvidia are also licencees of ARM IP as well, but less of their overall product range derives from it.</div>
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+ <div id="comment_body_57266884"><p>This is a crazy article. At the end, it meekly points out that the US has a 13% market share in chip production. Given that the US started this industry, leads in design in this space, leads in capital available for high tech industry, and that the US accounts for 15% to 18% of global GDP, a 13% market share in chip production is very poor performance. This is below what you might expect for a simple commodity that depends only on domestic market size and way below what you'd expect for this industry.</p></div>
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