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1 'EVE ONLINE' STUDIO ACQUIRED BY KOREAN MMO MAKER (ENGADGET.COM)
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3 Thursday September 06, 2018 @11:30PM (msmash)
4 from the in-some-business-news dept.
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6 o News link: https://games.slashdot.org/story/18/09/06/1921222/eve-online-studio-acquired-by-korean-mmo-maker
7 o Source link: https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/06/eve-online-pearl-abyss-ccp-games/
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10 MAXOMENOS writes: EVE Online developer CCP Games has been
11 acquired by Pearl Abyss, the South Korean studio behind the
12 action-oriented MMORPG Black Desert Online. According to
13 VentureBeat, the deal was worth $425 million and will close in
14 early October. It's a surprise announcement for CCP, which has
15 long operated as an independent developer. Eve Online isn't
16 the biggest MMORPG on the market, but it has maintained a
17 steady and loyal userbase through continuous updates and a
18 well-timed switch to a hybrid premium and free-to-play model.
19 The 15-year-old game is unique, too, with its large-scale
20 battles and notoriously complex economic and political
21 systems.
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24 ** RIP Eve (Score:3)
25 (by spiritplumber ( 1944222 ))
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28 Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the userbase's
29 culture and wreck a good thing.
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31 ** Re: (Score:3)
32 (by sinij ( 911942 ))
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35 If someone could make EVE more grindy, it would be a Korean
36 MMO maker. I don't see them misunderstanding that aspect, as
37 they invented Korean Grinder.
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40 ** Re: (Score:3)
41 (by duke_cheetah2003 ( 862933 ))
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44 > Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the
45 > userbase's culture and wreck a good thing.
46 CCP already did that years ago.
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51 ** Re: (Score:1)
52 (by Anonymous Coward)
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55 Son, if Koreans will do anything it's inject sexy alien
56 women and bikini-space-armor into it.
57 East Asia never suffered the retardation of puritanism,
58 which is unique to the Western world owing to Abrahamic
59 doctrine, to develop Gymnophobia and Genophobia, so they
60 don't care about the Church-Feminist anti-sexualization
61 offense alliance. The only exception are the "Communist"
62 governments there.
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66 **
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68 ** Re: (Score:2)
69 (by jeff4747 ( 256583 ))
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72 It's almost like you don't know there's already Korean and
73 Chinese alliances in Eve.......and they're not doing all
74 that well. I'm sure FRT will stop feeding Keepstars soon.
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80 ** Re: (Score:3)
81 (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))
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84 It was bad in the beta and never actually recovered from
85 some pretty bad development choices. Have they discovered
86 parallel processing yet? And version management? Okay, I
87 guess the last one was a bit mean. They must have
88 discovered Git by now.
89 But seriously, the game is an unstructured mess. Played it
90 for a while, flew a Machariel and did incursions, level 4
91 missions etc. but after a while it got boring. May pick it
92 up again though.
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96 ** Not Good News (Score:4, Interesting)
97 (by Kunedog ( 1033226 ))
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100 Shamus Young has a series on Black Desert, explaining how
101 shockingly aggressive, expensive and game-ruining he found the
102 microtransactions system to be, even if you're familiar with the
103 worst of the American systems. There's manadatory PvP and
104 deliberately cramped inventory space but the "cash shop" can
105 always make things better (i.e. playable).
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107 I'd be worried if I were an EVE Online fan.
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109 [1]https://www.shamusyoung.com/tw... [shamusyoung.com]
110 > I see all the default clothes are bland and I need to pay real
111 > money for a cool outfit. Aesthetics are important to me. (Which
112 > is why I spend so much time on sculpting my character.) So I
113 > really don’t want to spend the rest of my time looking at these
114 > blando outfits. Sigh. Fine. What’s a pretend suit of armor cost
115 > these days? Three bucks? Five bucks?
116 >
117 > FORTY SIX AMERICAN DOLLARS? ARE YOU TRYING TO START A FIGHT?
118 > The cheap outfits can be had for $22. They also offer ladies
119 > underwear sets for just $7, if you want to run around in your
120 > underpants. (I don’t, thanks.)
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122 > (They also offer similar options for male characters. I was
123 > tempted to get the outfit that would let my kung-fu guy go
124 > shirtless, because he’s a kung-fu dude. But all of the choices
125 > looked like modern-day boxers. You can’t just wear baggy pants
126 > with no shirt.)
127 >
128 > Would you like to dye that super-expensive outfit you just
129 > bought? Or any other outfit? That will set you back another $10.
130 > And that’s somehow a rental. Your ten bucks gets you a month of
131 > being allowed to have dyed clothes. After the month is up, your
132 > clothes revert to their original colors and you gotta fork over
133 > another $10.
134 > Do you enjoy wheeling and dealing at the auction house in other
135 > games, but the egregious 35% tax on all your sales is making it
136 > impossible for you to have fun or turn a profit? Pay fifteen
137 > real-world dollars and the tax will go down to the normal 5%.
138 > (For one month.)
139 >
140 > Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so
141 > outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off. It’s
142 > not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity of the
143 > seller to ask this much[2] for what should be trivial virtual
144 > goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still likely to get
145 > offended if someone tries to sell you a stick of ordinary gum
146 > for five bucks.
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151 [1] https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=42507
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153 ** Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
154 (by Anonymous Coward)
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157 > Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so
158 > outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off.
159 > It’s not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity
160 > of the seller to ask this much for what should be trivial
161 > virtual goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still
162 > likely to get offended if someone tries to sell you a stick
163 > of ordinary gum for five bucks.
164 Sometimes, I thought Stallman was being a pendant for gripes
165 about terminology like "intellectual property".
166 Now I realize he was exactly right.
167 This guy uses the words "virtual goods", like it's something
168 he'll actually own. Dollars to donuts, the EULA and TOS says
169 these 'virtual goods' are nothing more than bits on their
170 server, you don't own a single bit of it, and they do
171 whatever they like, and fuck you we're keeping your money if
172 you don't like it.
173 Seriously, this should be a legal term. If your company
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178 ** Re: (Score:2)
179 (by Calydor ( 739835 ))
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182 Remember when they wanted to make players PAY for mods for
183 Skyrim?
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187 ** Re: (Score:2)
188 (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))
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191 $46 for a suit of armor?
192 If I ever had any interest in playing Eve*, this pricing
193 would instantly cure me of that notion.
194 *Which I don't, but still...
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197 ** Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win (Score:2)
198 (by Crashmarik ( 635988 ))
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201 If that isn't a match made in hell I don't know what is.
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205 ** Re: (Score:2)
206 (by MAXOMENOS ( 9802 ))
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209 ....if they can only get out of beta......
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211 ** Re: (Score:2)
212 (by blackomegax ( 807080 ))
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215 The current beta is 3 moons, 2 stations, and a shitty
216 framework of a "game" that runs at 10fps on a GTX1060
217 at low settings and looks 5x worse than games like doom
218 or E:D.
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223 ** Re: (Score:2)
224 (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))
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227 They're not even in Alpha. They call it that, but
228 what it actually is, is "perpetual development
229 hell". It doesn't have a version number but if it
230 had, it would be 666.
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236 ** Why didn't microsoft acquire it? (Score:3)
237 (by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ))
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240 Since its unofficial tagline is, ya know, "spreadsheet online"
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242 ** Re: (Score:2)
243 (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))
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246 It's also known as "Spreadsheet Simulator".
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249 ** Re: (Score:2)
250 (by meglon ( 1001833 ))
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253 But...it's a really pretty spreadsheet.
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258 ** Re: (Score:2)
259 (by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 ))
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262 Makes me wonder too. I wonder if White Wolf would be sold off
263 (likely) or spun off (unlikely, but would be nicer). My fear
264 is that it gets tossed to some big company, and the IP
265 completely shelved, never to see the light of day again,
266 similar to how EA has done with a lot of Origin IP.
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269 ** Re: (Score:2)
270 (by jeff4747 ( 256583 ))
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273 CCP was making a World of Darkness MMO, but canceled the
274 project a few years ago. I think they sold the IP.
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277 ** Only half a billion? (Score:2)
278 (by beheaderaswp ( 549877 ) *)
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281 My god... that number is kinda high...
282 That aside... this new owner will just accentuate the problem
283 areas of Eve that kept it from truly meeting it's potential.
284 As it is, it's already a griefing sandbox with little wiggle
285 room for anything except PVP and/or massive corporate/alliance
286 industry or fleet ops. When it could be far more balanced and
287 appeal to a larger player base.
288 Pushing it further into "gang warfare" style griefing will
289 eventually make the player base smaller.
290 I stopped playing in 2016. So I play
291
292 ** Re: (Score:3)
293 (by Luckyo ( 1726890 ))
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296 Your description of events is the exact opposite of your
297 conclusion. It sounds like EVE has in fact achieved
298 greatness, because the process you describe functions exactly
299 like real world functions on macro level.
300 The fact that they apparently managed to recreated the world
301 on macro level in a game through long standing player
302 interactions in less than two decades is mind blowingly
303 amazing.
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305 ** Re: (Score:2)
306 (by St.Creed ( 853824 ))
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309 And indeed, a subject of economic studies. Pretty
310 brilliant work in that respect. Whether it's successful as
311 an enjoyable game is something else entirely.
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313 ** Re: (Score:2)
314 (by Luckyo ( 1726890 ))
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317 Not economic. Political. This is literally the core
318 tenets of concept of sovereignty. Economy is just a
319 part of the picture here.
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324 ** Eve Online New addon will contain loot boxes (Score:2)
325 (by Cito ( 1725214 ))
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328 No more expansion packs but eve online will offer season passes
329 at 4 different tier prices; standard, deluxe edition, legacy and
330 ultimate edition.
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332 ** Also known as (Score:2)
333 (by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ))
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336 "Eve Online", also affectionately known as "Spreadsheet
337 Simulator".
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339 ** made me laugh (Score:2)
340 (by meglon ( 1001833 ))
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343 > Eve Online isn't the biggest MMORPG on the market
344 In other news: water is wet, and the sky is blue.
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