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1680                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~bobbied">bobbied</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~bobbied">( 2522392 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1685                 <div id="comment_body_57266116"><p>Why? </p><p>Politics of course.. </p></div>
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1710                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~AlwinBarni">Alwin Barni</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~AlwinBarni">( 5107629 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1715                 <div id="comment_body_57266170"><p><div class="quote"><p>Why? </p><p>Politics of course.. </p></div><p>Could you please expand?</p></div>
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1740                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~fahrbot-bot">fahrbot-bot</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~fahrbot-bot">( 874524 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
1741                         <span class="otherdetails" id="comment_otherdetails_57266194">
1742                 on Thursday September 06, 2018 @05:49PM (<span class="ind"></span><a href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266194">#57266194</a>)
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1748                 <div id="comment_body_57266194"><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Why? </p><p>Politics of course.. </p></div><p>Could you please expand?</p></div><p> <tt>
1749 P     o     l     i     t     i     c     s          o    f          c     o     u     r     s     e.
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1787                 <div id="comment_body_57266242"><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Why? </p><p>Politics of course.. </p></div><p>Could you please expand?</p></div><p> <tt><br>P     o     l     i     t     i     c     s          o    f          c     o     u     r     s     e.<br></tt> </p></div><p>I'm not sure if I should laugh, or hunt you down and smack you upside your head with a 2x4.</p></div>
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1812                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Highdude702">Highdude702</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Highdude702">( 4456913 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1817                 <div id="comment_body_57266272"><p>I mean, I thought it was hilarious, and it wasn't the name calling garbage you see here too often.</p></div>
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1842                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~AlwinBarni">Alwin Barni</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~AlwinBarni">( 5107629 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1847                 <div id="comment_body_57266414"><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)
1848
1849 </p><p> However:<br>
1850
1851 expand
1852 ikspand/<br>
1853 verb<br>
1854 verb: expand; 3rd person present: expands; past tense: expanded; past participle: expanded; gerund or present participle: expanding<br>
1855 * become or make larger or more extensive<br>
1856 * <b>give a fuller version or account of.</b></p></div>
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1881                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~fahrbot-bot">fahrbot-bot</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~fahrbot-bot">( 874524 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1886                 <div id="comment_body_57266540"><p><div class="quote"><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)
1887
1888 </p><p> However: expand - verb<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>
1889   (1) become or make larger or more extensive<br>
1890   (2) <b>give a fuller version or account of.</b>
1891 </p></div><p>
1892 Yup, I know; I was married to an English teacher for 20 years, but using the first definition was funnier.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)
1893 </p><p>
1894 <a href="http://remembersue.tumblr.com/" title="tumblr.com">Remember Sue...</a> [tumblr.com]</p></div>
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1979                         <h4><a id="comment_link_57266322" name="comment_link_57266322" href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266322" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57266322)" >Re: Why is it "wishful thinking"?</a>
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1985                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span>Anonymous Coward</span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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1990                 <div id="comment_body_57266322"><p>The only reason is automation. Jobs were never going to come back from chip manufacturing.</p><p>They have a factory crew for setting up the parts and feeding the machines. Pretty cheap, doesn't actually make much money for anyone but the corporation running it. It's all "unskilled" and low pay...setting up all those machines, getting material dimensions in spec and running the machine is just considered general labor.</p></div>
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2015                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~YuppieScum">YuppieScum</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~YuppieScum">( 1096 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2020                 <div id="comment_body_57266406"><p><div class="quote"><p>If the US leads in chip manufacture, why can't it be competitive in putting the pieces together?</p></div><p>
2021 Because most of the CPU silicon used in the commonest devices - phones and laptops - is fabbed in Asia.<br> <br>
2022 Because most of the parts - like screens, RAM and flash storage - are also made in Asia, so it's cheaper to bolt it all together in a location closest to the source of the most parts.<br> <br>
2023 Because final assembly of something like an iPhone is a manual process that requires the dexterity of nimble fingers. It's not quite the same as bolting doors onto a Chevvy.</p></div>
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2059                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~GameboyRMH">GameboyRMH</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~GameboyRMH">( 1153867 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2064                 <div id="comment_body_57266432"><p>Because it hardly has any of the pieces right now - it would be a massive effort to put all the supply chains in place for the various electronics components needed for a whole computer when the US currently makes little more than chips. Currently those supply chains are in Asia (which also has the advantages of cheap labor and lax environmental laws). I'd compare it to going from just making engine blocks to making a whole car, but that underplays the difficulty too much.</p></div>
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2089                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~AHuxley">AHuxley</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~AHuxley">( 892839 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2094                 <div id="comment_body_57266438">Re "why can't it be competitive in putting the pieces together?"<br>
2095 Think back to the 1970 and 1980's when the CPU thing needed new production lines and was no longer low yield skilled lab work.<br>
2096 Non first world nations part pay their workers in food, dormitories.  Their introduction to work is free as its part of the nations free "education".<br>
2097 Tax reductions and industrial export support then further supports the electronics brand in the poor nation.<br>
2098 No unions.  Lots of pollution.  <br> <br>
2099 The big brands moved to ver</div>
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2129                         <h4><a id="comment_link_57266082" name="comment_link_57266082" href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266082" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57266082)" >But for how long?</a>
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2135                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~DMJC">DMJC</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~DMJC">( 682799 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2140                 <div id="comment_body_57266082">Sure they still do, but China is beginning to manufacture X86 CPUs directly. It's only a matter of time until they catch up and crush Intel and AMD through undercutting, and throwing money at the problem.
2141 <a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-zen-x86-processor-dryhana,37417.html" title="tomshardware.com">https://www.tomshardware.com/n...</a> [tomshardware.com]</div>
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2177                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~DalM">Dallas May</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~DalM">( 4891515 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2182                 <div id="comment_body_57266168"><p>In the long run, yes. Probably not really soon. There are plenty of significant advances happening that space right now. They might market to the far low end PCs, but they aren't the market AMD and Intel really want anyway.</p></div>
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2207                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~jon3k">jon3k</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~jon3k">( 691256 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2212                 <div id="comment_body_57266240">By then (10-20 years, if they're lucky) the desktop will be commoditized and mobile (ie laptops) mostly replaced with ARM.  All the growth is in the server market and China is a long, long way from producing an X86 CPU that can compete with Intel Xeons.  Who knows what the landscape will look like by then.</div>
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2230                 <div class="title">
2231                         <h4><a id="comment_link_57267168" name="comment_link_57267168" href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57267168" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57267168)" >Re: But for how long?</a>
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2237                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~adolf">adolf</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~adolf">( 21054 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2242                 <div id="comment_body_57267168"><p>This will also be the year of Linux on the desktop!</p></div>
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2267                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~tsa">tsa</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~tsa">( 15680 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2272                 <div id="comment_body_57267622"><p>Yeah, paradise is near!</p></div>
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2297                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~adolf">adolf</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~adolf">( 21054 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2302                 <div id="comment_body_57267712"><p>We're on the home stretch, boys!</p></div>
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2327                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~AHuxley">AHuxley</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~AHuxley">( 892839 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2332                 <div id="comment_body_57266400">As long as the NRO needs hand crafted space CPU products.</div>
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2357                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~CaffeinatedBacon">CaffeinatedBacon</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~CaffeinatedBacon">( 5363221 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2362                 <div id="comment_body_57267142"><p>But who will people trust to make their CPU's. Intel with their "management engine" and AMD etc all with the same is already freaking enough people out.</p><p>Who is going to want a Chinese CPU with who knows what running on it that you will never be able to see, has access to everything, and can do anything it wants to "your computer" and "your data".<br>
2363 Most countries would probably just ban them like they are <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/technology/huawei-banned-australia-5g.html" title="nytimes.com">doing for 5G telecom equipment already.<span class="substr"> </span></a> [nytimes.com] </p></div>
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2393                         <h4><a id="comment_link_57266092" name="comment_link_57266092" href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266092" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57266092)" >Yeah, but . . .</a>
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2399                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~dtmos">dtmos</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~dtmos">( 447842 )</a></span></a> <a href="/faq/subscriptions.shtml#subscription_other_advantages">*</a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2401                 on Thursday September 06, 2018 @05:28PM (<span class="ind"></span><a href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266092">#57266092</a>)
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2407                 <div id="comment_body_57266092"><p>. . . computer chips with <strong>state-of-the-art lithography</strong> soon all will be manufactured overseas.  Specifically, they will be made by exactly two companies, <a href="https://www.samsungfoundry.com/foundry/homepage.do" title="samsungfoundry.com">Samsung</a> [samsungfoundry.com] and <a href="http://www.tsmc.com/english/default.htm" title="tsmc.com">TSMC</a> [tsmc.com], with GlobalFoundries' recent announcement that it is <a href="https://www.anandtech.com/show/13277/globalfoundries-stops-all-7nm-development" title="anandtech.com">stopping development of its 7nm process</a> [anandtech.com].  GF operated the old IBM facility in Fishkill, NY, and AFAIK was the last company offering state-of-the-art foundry services with a fab in the US.</p><p>Intel is still in business, of course, and even has a <a href="https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/foundry/overview.html" title="intel.com">foundry business</a> [intel.com], but it cannot seem to successfully operate it -- substantially all of its wafer starts are chips of its own design.  With the capital cost of each new-generation fab reaching $20 billion, it's only a matter of time until Intel -- which has only its internal product base of chip designs to fill its fabs, while Samsung and TSMC make chips for the entire industry -- can no longer afford the move to the next generation.</p><p>If the rest of the semiconductor industry (or the US DoD) wants high-performance computer chips, there's now nowhere to go except Samsung and TSMC.  It will be interesting to see what politicians do when they realize that the best digital chips can no longer be manufactured in the US.  The choice seems to be either (1) have our economy -- everything from cell phones to missiles -- dependent on chips manufactured overseas, or (2) subsidize Intel's foundry business and the semiconductor equipment manufacturers to the tune of tens of $billions, just to keep a US source of high-performance semiconductors.</p></div>
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2450                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~DalM">Dallas May</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~DalM">( 4891515 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2455                 <div id="comment_body_57266174"><p>The same reason they haven't produced a car yet. They could, but they don't want to. They have good deals with their current suppliers, so why make that investment?</p></div>
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2474                         <h4><a id="comment_link_57266622" name="comment_link_57266622" href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266622" onclick="return D2.setFocusComment(57266622)" >The normal Transition of economies</a>
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2480                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~aberglas">aberglas</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~aberglas">( 991072 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2485                 <div id="comment_body_57266622"><p>1. Primary production<br>2. Manufacturing<br>3. Services</p><p>Services will keep things going fine.  Lawyers, tax accountants, retail and beauty consultants.  That is where the growth will come from.</p></div>
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2532                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~nateman1352">nateman1352</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~nateman1352">( 971364 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2537                 <div id="comment_body_57266838">TI doesn't have state-of-the-art lithography for digital. They gave up on the Moore's Law race 10 years ago after they reached 45nm. TI realized during the development of WinRT that building CPUs requires very expensive fabs and if you are not an x86 supplier then your only option is to make ARM chips, which is a race to the bottom with very thin margins. TI realized they can make more money building mixed signal designs on older process.</div>
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2595                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Graymalkin">Graymalkin</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Graymalkin">( 13732 )</a></span></a> <a href="/faq/subscriptions.shtml#subscription_other_advantages">*</a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
2596                         <span class="otherdetails" id="comment_otherdetails_57266560">
2597                 on Thursday September 06, 2018 @07:18PM (<span class="ind"></span><a href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266560">#57266560</a>)
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2603                 <div id="comment_body_57266560"><p>State of the art lithography is not a synonym for high-performance computer chips. In fact for a lot of uses, DoD included, state of the art lithography is nowhere in the requirements. Hardened chips on robust/insulated substrates is more important in many uses than smaller die traces.</p></div>
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2668                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~KalvinB">KalvinB</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~KalvinB">( 205500 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2673                 <div id="comment_body_57266768"><p>They'll be subsidized under issues of national security if they're really needed by the government.  The government generally doesn't run bleeding edge technology so the chips that can be produced in the US will be plenty sufficient for government needs.  If the government ever needs a $20 billion plant, they'll cut a check under the national defense budget.</p><p>We've been comfortable with foreign made chips for decades in the consumer market.  Unless there is a severe national security issue that won't change.<span class="substr"> </span></p></div>
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2709                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~nateman1352">nateman1352</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~nateman1352">( 971364 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2714                 <div id="comment_body_57266898"><p>Intel has the same fundamental problem with foundry that AMD had 10 years ago. Every 3rd party company does not trust Intel to prioritize their products over Intel's own products. Intel will always build their own products on the latest process node first. If you fab with Intel then your wafers will always get 2nd priority over Intel's own wafers. The only way that is not the case is if you are such a huge customer that your contract requires Intel to construct an entire new factory just for you. Then you h<span class="substr"> </span></p></div>
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2860                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~whoever57">whoever57</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~whoever57">( 658626 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2862                 on Thursday September 06, 2018 @05:52PM (<span class="ind"></span><a href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266206">#57266206</a>)
2863                 <small><a href="//slashdot.org/~whoever57/journal/" title="Thursday September 30, 2004 @02:33AM" class="user_journal_display">Journal</a> </small>
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2868                 <div id="comment_body_57266206"><p><i>"An even greater share of the world's computer chips are designed domestically and made overseas by companies including Qualcomm, Apple, Broadcom and Nvidia."</i></p><p>This reads as though Qualcomm, Apple, Broadcom and Nvidia are making chips. What would be clear and accurate is:</p><p>"An even greater share of the world's computer chips are designed domestically by companies including Qualcomm, Apple, Broadcom and Nvidia and made overseas."</p></div>
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2911                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~YuppieScum">YuppieScum</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~YuppieScum">( 1096 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2913                 on Thursday September 06, 2018 @06:20PM (<span class="ind"></span><a href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266338">#57266338</a>)
2914                 <small><a href="//slashdot.org/~YuppieScum/journal/" title="Tuesday August 05, 2003 @03:40PM" class="user_journal_display">Journal</a> </small>
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2919                 <div id="comment_body_57266338">Don't forget, a hefty chunk of Qualcomm's - and pretty much all of Apple's - designs are not original, but instead are based on IP from ARM, a British company (although recently bought out by SoftBank).<br> <br>In fact, Broadcom and Nvidia are also licencees of ARM IP as well, but less of their overall product range derives from it.</div>
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2962                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Gabest">Gabest</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Gabest">( 852807 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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2964                 on Thursday September 06, 2018 @06:17PM (<span class="ind"></span><a href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266320">#57266320</a>)
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2970                 <div id="comment_body_57266320">TSMC and Samsung are the leaders in chip making. And second class Intel and AMD both have shady Middle-East ties from Israel and Dubai.</div>
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3068                         <span class="by"><span class="byby">by </span><a href="//slashdot.org/~Goldsmith">Goldsmith</a>  <span class="uid"><a href="//slashdot.org/~Goldsmith">( 561202 )</a></span></a></span><span class="writes" style="display:none"> writes:</span>
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3070                 on Thursday September 06, 2018 @08:34PM (<span class="ind"></span><a href="//news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12579860&amp;cid=57266884">#57266884</a>)
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3076                 <div id="comment_body_57266884"><p>This is a crazy article. At the end, it meekly points out that the US has a 13% market share in chip production. Given that the US started this industry, leads in design in this space, leads in capital available for high tech industry, and that the US accounts for 15% to 18% of global GDP, a 13% market share in chip production is very poor performance. This is below what you might expect for a simple commodity that depends only on domestic market size and way below what you'd expect for this industry.</p></div>
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